RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-16 Thread Duarte Carreira
Matt, the only reason I have seen presented for some reluctance in pushing spatialite as a de facto standard following shapefile's success, is not having a foothold in the closed source sector. That's the only thing ESRI's fgdb could potentially offer, since the extra data types supported will n

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Peter J Halls
Another way to achieve interoperability is via a DBMS for which there is an SDE implementation, although this may not be appropriate for Matt Wilkie's requirements. It may not be always as easy as with shapefiles but it does not have the limitations. Having said that, in our Oracle environment

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Eric Wolf
Matt's chicken-and-egg point seems dead-on. Except that Jack Dangermond abhors a vacuum and ESRI has been focused on higher-order issues than file formats. They are trying to provide topological constraints in the database (or file) and things like geometric networks (which are really just a set of

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Duarte Carreira
es. Duarte De: Eric Wolf [mailto:ebw...@gmail.com] Enviada: quinta-feira, 17 de Junho de 2010 17:33 Para: Peter J Halls Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Matt Wilkie Assunto: Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support Matt's chicken-and-egg point seems dead-on. Except that Jack Dangermond

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Ragi Burhum
> > From: Duarte Carreira > Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support > To: Eric Wolf , Peter J Halls > Cc: "gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org" , Matt > Wilkie > > > Well, if SpatiaLite offers some "proper" benefits and dissem

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Duarte Carreira
17 de Junho de 2010 21:57 Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Duarte Carreira; Eric Wolf; Peter J Halls; Matt Wilkie Assunto: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support From: Duarte Carreira mailto:dcarre...@edia.pt>> Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support To: Eric Wolf

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Peter J Halls
Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Duarte Carreira; Eric Wolf; Peter J Halls; Matt Wilkie Assunto: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support From: Duarte Carreira mailto:dcarre...@edia.pt>> Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support To: Eric Wolf mailto:ebw...@gmail.com&

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Duarte Carreira
[mailto:r...@burhum.com] Enviada: quinta-feira, 17 de Junho de 2010 21:57 Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Duarte Carreira; Eric Wolf; Peter J Halls; Matt Wilkie Assunto: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support From: Duarte Carreira mailto:dcarre...@edia.pt>> Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Peter J Halls
att Wilkie Assunto: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support From: Duarte Carreira mailto:dcarre...@edia.pt>> Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support To: Eric Wolf mailto:ebw...@gmail.com>>, Peter J Halls mailto:p.ha...@york.ac.uk>> Cc: "gdal-de

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Jason Roberts
ssage- From: gdal-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:gdal-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Peter J Halls Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:09 AM To: Duarte Carreira Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Matt Wilkie; Ragi Burhum Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support I happened

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Peter J Halls
17 de Junho de 2010 21:57 Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Duarte Carreira; Eric Wolf; Peter J Halls; Matt Wilkie Assunto: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support From: Duarte Carreira mailto:dcarre...@edia.pt>> Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support To:

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Duarte Carreira
@lists.osgeo.org; Eric Wolf; Matt Wilkie Assunto: Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support And ... I think I may have found the file geodatabase documentation promised ... in the online ArecGIS 10 documentation, Administrator Library, Architecture of a geodatabase, Geodatabase XML. It would appear

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Ragi Burhum
This is exactly what I have been talking about. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Duarte Carreira wrote: > Re-reading your email it seems I misunderstood what you meant… So using > the zigGIS ArcMap/PostGIS provider one could adapt it to read OGR > datasources, like QGIS does. You would then acc

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Ragi Burhum
Right. And you have to fork another $3000 (or $1500?) **per seat** for one of these licenses **on top** of what you already paid for ArcGIS desktop. On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Duarte Carreira wrote: > Just a quick note: SQLite is supported through the FME add-on aka > Interoperability Exte

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Ragi Burhum
This is meant to be an export/import type of thing. So you won't be able to "open" something in ArcMap and start manipulating it live using the ArcMap/ArcCatalog tools. The other approach I am proposing would be OGR as a seamless datasource that integrates with ArcGIS at the data access layer level

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-18 Thread Duarte Carreira
Well, I'm sold. What you need to do it?? Duarte De: Ragi Burhum [mailto:r...@burhum.com] Enviada: sexta-feira, 18 de Junho de 2010 16:31 Para: Peter J Halls Cc: Duarte Carreira; gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Eric Wolf; Matt Wilkie Assunto: Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support Th

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-30 Thread Matt Wilkie
7) ??more ideas/requests?? > - Have metadata as part of the file, rather than a separate file, to > avoid getting lost when copying data YES please! matt wilkie Geomatics Analyst Information Management and Technology Yukon Department of Envir

Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-30 Thread Matt Wilkie
For what it's worth, here is the reply I recieved from ESRI regarding the release plans. In a follow on message I also asked whether the API would require runtime licensing or similar, to which I've not received a reply; I waited a week or so. Hi Matt, To answer your question abo