Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >guys...you don't understand...I mounted the CD just finewent to a terminal > window and used chmod to make "installer" executable even...and tried to expl >icity run it...but it won't run because none of the files on the CD are writab >le (duh)...hence nothing works until transferred...

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pgadmin3 >Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected. > The library used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode, compiler with C++ ABI 1002,wx contai >ners,compatible with 2.4), and your program used 2.6 (no debug,Unicode,compile >r with C++ ABI 1002

Re: gEDA-user: Re: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >>> Is there any way to promote the attributes of elements already >>> instantiated? > >> I believe this involves playing around with system-gafrc or one of the >> other RC files. > >Only option I found is promote-invisible="enabled". This does not help as >it is only looked at when symbols

Re: gEDA-user: Re: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> I might remove the footprint attribute before I contribute a symbol. > Without the footprint they are light like any other in the > newlib. The heavy versions will be hosted on my website along with > the corresponding footprints. Alternately, map the symbol to the heavy data in a .csv file. S

gEDA-user: Re: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:37:26 -0400, Stuart Brorson wrote: > Nope. You got it. :-) > >> Is there any way to promote the attributes of elements already >> instantiated? > I believe this involves playing around with system-gafrc or one of the > other RC files. Only option I found is promote-in

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA and Eagle play nice together?

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
PCB also has an autorouter, although its output leaves things to be desired, IMO. Another project waiting for a hacker to adopt it. . . How big is your board? If it's small or mid-sized, cleaning up after an autorouter may take as much time as just routing it yourself. Also, if your board has

Re: gEDA-user: Making a subcircuit under gschem?

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Frazer Williams wrote: Hi, Is it possible to create a spice netlist for a subcircuit using gschem (and gnetlist)? I can almost do it. Using the spice-directive-1.sym symbol from the spice library, I can get gschem to write a proper .SUBCIRCUIT line into the spice netlist,

gEDA-user: gEDA and Eagle play nice together?

2006-08-29 Thread Taylor Jones
I would like to use a Eagle for its autorouter and gEDA for everything else (as much as is possible). Best case scenario: Eagle natively reads .pcb format, I run the autorouter, go back to gEDA world (I realize this in not possible). Worst case scenario: I have to use Eagle for everything including

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: I'm having trouble getting traces to contact some pads

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
I'm pretty new at using pcb and have encountered a problem I can't figure out. My problem is that for several components, pcb won't allow me to draw a trace line all the way to the pad. I can draw the trace almost to the pad, but then it refuses to go any farther. This is a FAQ: http://geda.s

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: I'm having trouble getting traces to contact some pads

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> I'm pretty new at using pcb and have encountered a problem I can't > figure out. My problem is that for several components, pcb won't allow > me to draw a trace line all the way to the pad. I can draw the trace > almost to the pad, but then it refuses to go any farther. Shut off "auto-enforce

gEDA-user: pcb: I'm having trouble getting traces to contact some pads

2006-08-29 Thread Frazer Williams
Hi (again), I'm pretty new at using pcb and have encountered a problem I can't figure out. My problem is that for several components, pcb won't allow me to draw a trace line all the way to the pad. I can draw the trace almost to the pad, but then it refuses to go any farther. Here's how I got i

Re: gEDA-user: displaying nets on a component in PCB

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> gtk... i didn't realize there was a difference syntactically In an ideal world there wouldn't be. But it depends on which functions get called to parse the action string. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-b

Re: gEDA-user: displaying nets on a component in PCB

2006-08-29 Thread Taylor Jones
On 8/29/06, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet. That worked for me. But I had to use ( ) and commas like:lesstif or gtk hid?  I use lesstif.gtk... i didn't realize there was a difference syntactically ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@mori

gEDA-user: Making a subcircuit under gschem?

2006-08-29 Thread Frazer Williams
Hi, Is it possible to create a spice netlist for a subcircuit using gschem (and gnetlist)? I can almost do it. Using the spice-directive-1.sym symbol from the spice library, I can get gschem to write a proper .SUBCIRCUIT line into the spice netlist, but it doesn't put the line at the start of th

Re: gEDA-user: displaying nets on a component in PCB

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> Sweet. That worked for me. But I had to use ( ) and commas like: lesstif or gtk hid? I use lesstif. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: displaying nets on a component in PCB

2006-08-29 Thread Taylor Jones
On 8/23/06, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I didn't notice the log message I get after entering the second> netlist command:>> Net .* has no pin U6-.*Try this patch.  With it, you have three rats options::netlist rats Adds all rats to the list (default):netlist norats:netli

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Patrick Doyle
All it requries is for some energetic volunteer to write a database front end with search facility and then make it export symbol files to gschem or gattrib. Also, gschem and gattrib would require modification to accept input through a pipe or a socket. I thought it might be something in that o

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Arthur Baldwin
Peter,Thanks!  That's a great idea!  Any reason why I shouldn't include /root on that partition as well?ABPeter TB Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 29 August 2006 14:51, Arthur Baldwin wrote:> ok...here are the details. I'm using the Fedora Core 5 distro with all the> latest patches app

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
I too am curious about this, although I haven't made the time yet to go read the heavy vs. light debate in all it's glory. Currently, I work in a manufacturing environment where every single item we sell is made up of a BOM of items that we purchase and assemble in some form or another. Thus, wh

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
Yes, I know about the heavy/light symbol arguments, read through the discussions and made up my mind. I won't need flexibility the light approach offer -- no need to use zillions of different resistor models. Quite the contrary, for economic reasons I will go out of my way to stick with as little

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread John Luciani
On 8/29/06, Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I know about the heavy/light symbol arguments, read through the discussions and made up my mind. I won't need flexibility the light approach offer -- no need to use zillions of different resistor models. Quite the contrary, for economic

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Patrick Doyle
I too am curious about this, although I haven't made the time yet to go read the heavy vs. light debate in all it's glory. Currently, I work in a manufacturing environment where every single item we sell is made up of a BOM of items that we purchase and assemble in some form or another. Thus, wh

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread Patrick Doyle
My schematic includes the same concept as R1-8, I just happen to call them R1, R3, R5, etc... --wpd ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> The docs state, that geda prefers light symbols but can be can be > configured for the heavy approach. Just what does this decision involve? Edit the symbols and add all the attributes you need into the .sym file. Have one copy of the .sym file for each specific part you want, like instead o

gEDA-user: HOWTO configure geda for heavy symbols?

2006-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Yes, I know about the heavy/light symbol arguments, read through the discussions and made up my mind. I won't need flexibility the light approach offer -- no need to use zillions of different resistor models. Quite the contrary, for economic reasons I will go out of my way to stick with as little d

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> Why do you want to build a cat-5 tester anyway? If you have a bad > cable, you should just bring it down to IT and get a new one (they > grow them on trees down there, don't you know). I *am* IT around here, and I make my own cables. Wired the house, too. I'm on my third (fourth?) 1000 ft sp

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread DJ Delorie
> and I'm probably missing something blatantly obvious to everybody > else, It's not blatantly obvious, but I included R1-8 just to protect the GPIO ports from shorts. If the cable is shorted, you don't want to have a Voh GPIO and a Vol GPIO tied together. The resistors on the far end of the ca

Re: gEDA-user: Rules of thumb for MOVs?

2006-08-29 Thread Harold D. Skank
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 11:29 -0400, Stuart Brorson wrote: > Hi Guys -- > > I have an electronics-type question, and perhaps I can try to tap into > the knowledgebase on geda-user. > > I need to use some MOVs on my AC input power lines to cut down voltage > transients which seem to make some of our

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 14:51, Arthur Baldwin wrote: > ok...here are the details. I'm using the Fedora Core 5 distro with all the > latest patches applied to all apps, kernel, etc. The kernel version is > 2.6.17-2174smp. The version of Guile that I currently have installed > (after attempting

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Arthur Baldwin
ok...here are the details.  I'm using the Fedora Core 5 distro with all the latest patches applied to all apps, kernel, etc.  The kernel version is 2.6.17-2174smp.  The version of Guile that I currently have installed (after attempting to update again after installing gEDA) is labeled as "5:1.6.7-6

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread Patrick Doyle
I just realized I completely forgot my obligatory smart-alec comment Why do you want to build a cat-5 tester anyway? If you have a bad cable, you should just bring it down to IT and get a new one (they grow them on trees down there, don't you know). --wpd _

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread Patrick Doyle
I was thinking about this some more during my morning constitutional.  (For those of you with your minds in the gutter, that means during my morning walk, not what you were thinking).  Since I didn't have the original email in front of me, I simplified the circuit slightly: | P0/AD0       R1   

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Arthur Baldwin
guys...you don't understand...I mounted the CD just finewent to a terminal window and used chmod to make "installer" executable even...and tried to explicity run it...but it won't run because none of the files on the CD are writable (duh)...hence nothing works until transferred...Stuart Brorson

Re: gEDA-user: Fun challenge: cat-5 cable tester

2006-08-29 Thread User Tomdean
How about 4 diodes and current limiting resistors? tomdean v 20060123 1 C 11100 37100 1 0 0 ATtiny28_DIP.sym { T 13500 43000 5 10 1 1 0 6 1 refdes=U? } C 15700 40500 1 0 0 diode-1.sym { T 16000 41000 5 10 1 1 0 0 1 refdes=D? } C 14600 40600 1 0 0 resistor-1.sym { T 14800 40900 5 10 1 1 0 0 1 refd

Re: gEDA-user: Re: New release of gEDA install CD

2006-08-29 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >> ; A larger value provides greater pan distance when moving the mouse, >> ; while a smaller value provides a smoother, but smaller pan distance >> ; when moving the mouse. >^ >A little cut'n paste error here... Yup. Fixed in my CVS tree. Thanks.

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
* Some explanation about why you thought you needed to copy everything to the hard drive. That is, what happened leading you to take this step? his cdrom is being mounted noexec, this needs to be changed to exec. Maybe. If so, then he neglected to read the following (from the INSTALL

gEDA-user: Re: pinnumber, pinlabel, pinseq, pin-what?

2006-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:44:35 -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > Be sure to check out: > > http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:master_attributes_list Thanks. ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak http://lilalaser.de/blog ___ geda-user mailing list geda

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread John Sheahan
Stuart Brorson wrote: * Your Linux distro and version (e.g. Fedora Core 3, SuSE 9.3, or whatever) * Some explanation about why you thought you needed to copy everything to the hard drive. That is, what happened leading you to take this step? his cdrom is being mounted noexec, this

gEDA-user: Re: New release of gEDA install CD

2006-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:43:08 -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > You can control the amount the mouse moves by changing/overriding > the following rc keywords: Thanks. Now I can tweak the mouse like I like it :-) > ; mousepan-gain integer [...] > ; keyboardpan-gain integer > ; > ; Controls how mu

Re: gEDA-user: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
Arthur, Thanks for your bug report. However, without some basic info your report is useless. If you are intersted in submitting a real, actionable bug report, please provide the following information: * The CD version number. * Your Linux distro and version (e.g. Fedora Core 3, SuSE 9.3, or

gEDA-user: Re: CD ISO install Issues

2006-08-29 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:15:50 -0700, Arthur Baldwin wrote: > Recently I installed the latest version of the CD ISO for the gEDA > Suite. Mee too. See yesterdays posts. :-) > What I did not expect to encounter was the need to copy > everything from the CD to the HDD before being able to run the

Re: gEDA-user: simple panelizing script

2006-08-29 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: Given an input board and the number horizontally and vertically you want, this produces a panelized board. For a board "foo.pcb" it produces "foo.pcb.panel". Not a lot of smarts here, but it demonstrates the procedure, including fixing up the paste-point. Note: make sure you h