Re: gEDA-user: bending design rules for TSSOP20 -- need advice

2006-10-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
Thanks, very helpful. That seems like the correct interpretation of their use of the word "swell". -dave DJ Delorie wrote: Below a certain pitch, mask becomes almost useless, because the solder will bride from pin to pin anyway. The challenge boards are 0.50m and 0.40mm pitch and neither ha

Re: gEDA-user: bending design rules for TSSOP20 -- need advice

2006-10-21 Thread DJ Delorie
Below a certain pitch, mask becomes almost useless, because the solder will bride from pin to pin anyway. The challenge boards are 0.50m and 0.40mm pitch and neither has mask between the pins. What seems to work for me is to just glob on the solder, then go over it with a desolder braid where ne

Re: gEDA-user: bending design rules for TSSOP20 -- need advice

2006-10-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
Here is the rule in question from PCBexpress web site: Solder mask swell is at least .008 larger than copper surfaces to keep mask off pads. Am I interpreting that correctly? That I need .008 all around the copper pad? Or is a mask .008 wider than the pad sufficient? -dave Dave N6NZ wrot

gEDA-user: bending design rules for TSSOP20 -- need advice

2006-10-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
Thought I just saw a thread on this topic, but I deleted the whole works and can't find it in the archives. I'm trying to reconcile a data sheet for a TSSOP-20, 0.65mm lead pitch package with PCBexpress's design rules. The problem: 26mil l.p. and 10mil pad width leaves 16mil btw pads. The ru

Re: gEDA-user: Trouble with CONN_USB

2006-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Olof, you'll generally want symbols that match your footprints. the symbols may be very specific, or very generic. In any event, you want the pins on the symbol to coincide with the pins on the footprints. pin 1 needs to match up with pin 1. The symbols only need two attributes to go from

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Re: gEDA-user: Trouble with CONN_USB

2006-10-21 Thread Olof Tångrot
Thanks John, but how do I make these land patterns integrate with symbols I create in gschem? And how do I make gsch2pcb recognize them when I want to create a netlist? Olof - Original Message - From: "John Luciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "gEDA user mailing list" Cc: Sent: Saturda

Re: gEDA-user: Trouble with CONN_USB

2006-10-21 Thread John Luciani
On 10/21/06, Olof Tångrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HI there. Where do I find the solution? Regards Olof I have a USB Type B connector at http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html#Connector (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org __

Re: gEDA-user: PCB polygon & rectangle practicalities

2006-10-21 Thread Harry Eaton
Harry Eaton wrote: The new polygon clipping code will dice up any polygon that has holes in it into smaller ones that don't have holes and they just touch, they don't overlap. I should clarify this statement. That is true of the Gerber output, but not the other types of output, or screen dra

Re: gEDA-user: smd challenge board status - last step!

2006-10-21 Thread DJ Delorie
> A Hong Kong/Chinese board fabber, YukShing Circuits, sent me some > FR-1 Not sure I want to hand-make that many precision boards. If I were to product-ize it, I'd go with a larger single-sided board. You still want the solder mask, I think, although it's hard to squeeze it between the IC pins.

Re: gEDA-user: smd challenge board status - last step!

2006-10-21 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: I'll give some feed back to that. I was planing on ordering ten. Not that I'm that bad at soldering, but some people at work could use some practice. Note that ten packs aren't cut up; you'll need a scroll saw or other pcb cutter with a narrow kerf. I use a #2 blade. I'm g

Re: gEDA-user: PCB polygon & rectangle practicalities

2006-10-21 Thread Harry Eaton
Dave N6NZ wrote: In fooling with various practice layouts (partial layouts, actually) I think I have the basics of polygons and rectangles sorted out. Now I'm wondering about the practicalities is adjoining poly's. Here is the situation: In my design, there wants to be a polygon patch of an

Re: gEDA-user: smd challenge board status - last step!

2006-10-21 Thread DJ Delorie
> > FYI: They still throb too fast to see (30Hz). Those caps are not very > > precise. > >U? What's their tolerance spec? They're X5R's, rated at 10%. That board is going about 700Hz+, so they're 5% off, but I've seen them up to 20% off when measuring them with my multimeter, not

Re: gEDA-user: smd challenge board status - last step!

2006-10-21 Thread John Griessen
Dave McGuire wrote: On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:26 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I wonder if you can hand-solder SOJ if you start by putting solder paste on the pads, so that you use the tip to reflow the paste? I've done this with a hot-air pencil. I find it a bit easier than doing SOJs with an iron

gEDA-user: Trouble with CONN_USB

2006-10-21 Thread Olof Tångrot
HI there. I saw in the list archive that I am not the only one that fails making gsch2pcb to accept the CONN_USB landpattern.   Is the problem the missing inc-file?   Has a problem been solved?   Where do I find the solution?   Regards Olof ___ ged

gEDA-user: PCB polygon & rectangle practicalities

2006-10-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
In fooling with various practice layouts (partial layouts, actually) I think I have the basics of polygons and rectangles sorted out. Now I'm wondering about the practicalities is adjoining poly's. Here is the situation: In my design, there wants to be a polygon patch of analog ground that wi