gEDA-user: slotting problem

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Baxendale
I seem to be having slotting problems with gschem. If I add a 7474 component, for instance, and change its slot number to 2, the pin numbers don't update. In the gschem log I see: Opened file [/home/des0prb/geda/share/gEDA/sym/74/7474-1.sym] numslots attribute missing Slotting not allowed for

Re: gEDA-user: slotting problem

2006-11-02 Thread Ales Hvezda
I seem to be having slotting problems with gschem. If I add a 7474 component, for instance, and change its slot number to 2, the pin numbers don't update. In the gschem log I see: How are you changing the slot number? If you change the slot number by directly editing the slot=

gEDA-user: Compatibility with Easy-Pc

2006-11-02 Thread anne Vanhoest
Hi, Is there any way to open easy-pc files (extensions .sch and .pcb) using gshem and pcb? I've had a look on the web but didn't find anything helpfull. I work on a linux pc (Fedora core version 5) with geda, but need to interact with my colleagues who use easy-pc. Thanks for any suggestions

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:58:02PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool, and

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 12:53:13AM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:58:57PM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: Steve Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure why not here is a link to an individual who built a replica of the Apollo Guidance System, using discrete components and wire wrap, in his basement. Of course a discrete logic

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread John Griessen
Dave McGuire wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool, and highly educational in a number of areas. The

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Ohh my ohh my... well you do know that, from the William Gibson/Bruce Sterling novel The Difference Engine, someone who writes code for a mechanical babage computational engine is known as a clacker? Yup, I've got that book. ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
I am looking forward to the day when the receiver will be finished and I can place a fully transistorized and 19 transistors retro labels on them :) transistor radio :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread Mark Rages
On 11/1/06, DJ Delorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I played with the op-amp idea, and actually got a working prototype on proto-board. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/io_port4.sch The out (line-driving) op amps come in a tiny dual-amp package, and the use of resistor dividers and ability to swap +/-

gEDA-user: OT: FPGAs, SDSL, Ronjas...

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the ISP detects this, Do you think that ISPs have nothing better to do than go into the low level debug features of their DSLAMs, look at individual packets in hex etc. to detect that I started using a different implementation of their line management

Re: gEDA-user: slotting problem

2006-11-02 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi John, On Thursday 02 November 2006 15:32, John Griessen wrote: When creating a slotted symbol, How do you use slotdef attribute? I have not found creating a slotted symbol in the gschem manual The symbol creation guide is here: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scg And the attributes list

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:05 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Well my tentative plan is to duplicate the functionality of the individual boards, but not to scale. Many DEC machines of that era were built with Flip Chip boards, 2.5x5 PCBs with card-edge connectors that typically implement relatively little

RE: gEDA-user: slotting problem

2006-11-02 Thread Adrian Nania
Hi John Here is a link for gEDA: HowTo, Tune-Up, Quirks, TipsTricks for Ubuntu Edgy version: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282040highlight=geda I am trying to share my experience and to solve some mysteries of dealing with gEDA To use slotdef attributes, you can edit your component and

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:16 AM, John Griessen wrote: The education could lead to real world washing machine controller stuff too -- by switching to printed organic transistors...where you can go straight to power handling with the same printed material. Which one is the MSP430 series from? The

gEDA-user: gEDA user with problems

2006-11-02 Thread Adrian Nania
Title: gEDA user with problems Hello, Could somebody show me what I am doing wrong? I am using Ubuntu Edgy with gEDA default package. 1) I am trying to activate the auto numbering for components placement. I modified /etc/gEDA/system-gschemrc to: (load (string-append gedadatarc

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Be sure to check how long it takes the op-amps to come out of saturation if you intend to use this for high-speed signals. Comparators (ones with totem-pole outputs) are usually better suited to this application. I'll look into it. The thing about op amps is that they're cheap and tiny.

Re: gEDA-user: OT: FPGAs, SDSL, Ronjas...

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote: When the ISP detects this, Do you think that ISPs have nothing better to do than go into the low level debug features of their DSLAMs, look at individual packets in hex etc. to detect that I started using a different implementation of

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread John Griessen
Dave McGuire wrote: Are printed organic transistors ready for prime-time? Not quite. Or at least, the processes that work well are kept secret, applied to small displays -- not necessarily easy in a garage shop. But for some things where short lifetime is OK, there are recipes used

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA user with problems

2006-11-02 Thread kmk
Adrian Nania wrote: 1) I am trying to activate the auto numbering for components placement. I modified /etc/gEDA/system-gschemrc to: ^ Better leave the systemrc alone and copy the relevant lines to $HOME/.gEDA/gschemrc (load (string-append gedadatarc

Re: gEDA-user: OT: FPGAs, SDSL, Ronjas...

2006-11-02 Thread Samuel A. Falvo II
On 11/2/06, Michael Sokolov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that ISPs have nothing better to do than go into the low level debug features of their DSLAMs, look at individual packets in hex etc. to detect that I started using a different implementation of their line management protocol?

gEDA-user: m32c expansion board works!

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
I got the replacement LDO today and swapped it in. Carefully checked the voltages; all OK and no magic smoke this time. The only fix I've had to make so far is that I didn't tie the HOLD and RDY lines at all, and the m3a board has them tied in an inconvenient way. Yup, locked up the chip. One

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thursday 02 November 2006 12:51, DJ Delorie wrote: Be sure to check how long it takes the op-amps to come out of saturation if you intend to use this for high-speed signals. Comparators (ones with totem-pole outputs) are usually better suited to this application. I'll look into it.

gEDA-user: Re: OT: FPGAs, SDSL, Ronjas...

2006-11-02 Thread Levente
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:35:48 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sokolov) wrote: When the ISP detects this, Do you think that ISPs have nothing better to do than go into the low level debug features of their DSLAMs, look at individual packets in hex etc. to detect that I started using a

Re: gEDA-user: m32c expansion board works!

2006-11-02 Thread Bob Paddock
On Thursday 02 November 2006 19:06, DJ Delorie wrote: So, once the configuration was figured out, all 4Mb of SRAM passed the memtest I wrote! It was a simple one, writing out a deterministic pseudorandom sequence, then reading it back in and comparing. Testing RAM in Embedded Systems Address

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA user with problems

2006-11-02 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] but I can not see any effect. The source-library paths tell gschem2pcb and pcb where to find the footprints. This will not affect gschem in any way. Use it to give the path to your local footprint files. This isn't correct. The source-library rc keyword and associated path is

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA user with problems

2006-11-02 Thread Ales Hvezda
Hi, [snip] Could somebody show me what I am doing wrong? I am using Ubuntu Edgy with gEDA default package. 1) I am trying to activate the auto numbering for components placement. I modified /etc/gEDA/system-gschemrc to: ... (load (string-append gedadatarc /scheme/auto-uref.scm)) (add-hook!

Re: gEDA-user: m32c expansion board works!

2006-11-02 Thread John Luciani
On 11/2/06, DJ Delorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got blinky lights! Congratulations. Nothing like the immense satisfaction of the blinky light. Difficult to explain to others the amount of joy a single flashing LED brings ;-) (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org

Re: gEDA-user: slotting problem

2006-11-02 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] None of these work for me. I'm not sure how to use the Edit/Slot... function - it doesn't even seem to change the slot attribute value (select component, choose Edit/Slot..., change value of slot in dialog). The dialog box changes the slot attribute value but doesn't update the pins.

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
I'll look into it. The thing about op amps is that they're cheap and tiny. Which frequently gets people into trouble when they try to use Op-Amps as Comparators: I don't mind using comparators as long as they're tiny. You know, if I keep on just trying stuff I'll eventually learn

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Which frequently gets people into trouble when they try to use Op-Amps as Comparators: There do seem to be comparators in the size, speed, and type I need; although not as plentiful as op amps. Specs: * push-pull output (they drive both P and N MOSFETS). * 1MHz or so (~1uS delay) * =

Re: gEDA-user: m32c expansion board works!

2006-11-02 Thread Dan McMahill
John Luciani wrote: On 11/2/06, DJ Delorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got blinky lights! Congratulations. Nothing like the immense satisfaction of the blinky light. Difficult to explain to others the amount of joy a single flashing LED brings ;-) Except for those who have

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:15 PM, Bob Paddock wrote: I'll look into it. The thing about op amps is that they're cheap and tiny. Which frequently gets people into trouble when they try to use Op-Amps as Comparators: ... TI: Op Amps and Comparators - Don't Confuse Them Operational amplifiers (op