gEDA-user: Driving a constant RS-232 output directly from +12V

2006-11-28 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello fellow gEDA users, I have a general hardware design question not specific to a particular design tool, so please forgive me for OT. Suppose I have an RS-232 output (DTR in my case) that is always asserted. Is it acceptable to drive it directly from the +12V supply (through a resistor I pre

Re: gEDA-user: compiling pcb lesstif, (was: Crash with lesstif)

2006-11-28 Thread joe tarantino
On 11/28/06, John Griessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No matter what package your lesstif or motif is in, it may be affected by changes in Xwindows from xfree86 to xorg. Problem may be where programs expect libraries to be... See below and adapt it to your case with Suse. >> I have seen this a

Re: gEDA-user: pcb lesstif won't compile on debian without adding a link -- clues?

2006-11-28 Thread joe tarantino
On 11/28/06, John Griessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: no link or use of the /usr/include/X11/SM dir by the latest packages for lesstif and xorg - may be a bug... or a style change. John G debian package libsm6 contains files: == /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6.0 /usr/X11R

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread John Luciani
On 11/28/06, Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guess I'm just looking forward to this meeting. Thanks Stuart, No prob! We're all looking forward to it. It's been a while. I am really looking forward to the "Free Dog" giveaway ;-) http://www.luciani.org/no-place-to-go/do

Re: gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread Bill Cox
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 20:26 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: > It is not clear from whats there on sourceforge. Is it true that the > datadraw gui is only for windows right now? I couldn't even figure out > where to begin in building datadraw. I tried > > cd da > ./makemake > make > > which failed

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Ales Hvezda wrote: Hi Stuart, I will have my wireless-enabled notebook tomorrow and see we can find. *cough* *cough* Ummm, Free Dog is one week from tomorrow, on Dec 6th. Of course, you can go there tomorrow we just don't want you to be lonely, sitting in

Re: gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Bill Cox wrote: Hi, Dan. DataDraw is already on Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/datadraw As I've said before, gnetman has a modern netlist database suitable for EDA tool development. That's what makes things like flattening easier, or translating between various netlist format

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Ales Hvezda
Hi Stuart, >> I will have my wireless-enabled notebook tomorrow and see we can >> find. > >*cough* *cough* > >Ummm, Free Dog is one week from tomorrow, on Dec 6th. > >Of course, you can go there tomorrow we just don't want you to be >lonely, sitting in that Starbucks all alone.;-)

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Ales Hvezda wrote: I will have my wireless-enabled notebook tomorrow and see we can find. *cough* *cough* Ummm, Free Dog is one week from tomorrow, on Dec 6th. Of course, you can go there tomorrow we just don't want you to be lonely, sitting in that Starbuck

gEDA-user: pcb lesstif won't compile on debian without adding a link -- clues?

2006-11-28 Thread John Griessen
no link or use of the /usr/include/X11/SM dir by the latest packages for lesstif and xorg - may be a bug... or a style change. John G debian package libsm6 contains files: == /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6.0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 /usr/share/doc/libsm6 /usr/share/doc

Re: gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread Bill Cox
Hi, Dan. DataDraw is already on Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/datadraw As I've said before, gnetman has a modern netlist database suitable for EDA tool development. That's what makes things like flattening easier, or translating between various netlist formats, or writing plac

gEDA-user: compiling pcb lesstif, (was: Crash with lesstif)

2006-11-28 Thread John Griessen
No matter what package your lesstif or motif is in, it may be affected by changes in Xwindows from xfree86 to xorg. Problem may be where programs expect libraries to be... See below and adapt it to your case with Suse. I have seen this also. It relates to changes from xfree86 to xorg Xwindo

Re: gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread John Griessen
Bill Cox wrote: I added pcb output. I haven't tested it on an real PCB designs, so there are probably some goobers. If you do use it, I'll try to support you. Also, would anybody feel better about gnetman if I put it up on SourceForge? I started running datadraw with the parts and pieces y

Re: gEDA-user: Crash with lesstif version of pcb

2006-11-28 Thread joeft
John Griessen wrote: joeft wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: DJ, More info on this problem (hopefully useful to others) I'm not sure why but there were some missing links in /usr/lib to some of the required shared libraries. In particular, there was no /usr/lib/libXm.so. There is however a

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Hmmm... a laptop with wireless, configuration for a > gateway/router with NAT, and a hub. :) I was thinking of the odd stares from the Starbucks crew when we start building a full IT department on one of those little tables. Now, bluetooth networking, that would be cooler. No wires or h

Re: gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Bill Cox wrote: Hi. I have started using gschem with David Rowe's Free Telephony Project, and while it's great, I miss my nice hierarchical design methodology I use for chip design with gschem. So, I added pcb output. I haven't tested it on an real PCB designs, so there are probably some goobe

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >The tricky bit is forwarding it to all the other laptops. > Hmmm... a laptop with wireless, configuration for a gateway/router with NAT, and a hub. :) -Ales ___ g

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Ales Hvezda
Hi Stuart, [snip] >an open network? Ales, John? (My laptop is still in the stone ages, >wireless-wise.) > I will have my wireless-enabled notebook tomorrow and see we can find. -Ales _

gEDA-user: Added PCB output to gnetman

2006-11-28 Thread Bill Cox
Hi. I have started using gschem with David Rowe's Free Telephony Project, and while it's great, I miss my nice hierarchical design methodology I use for chip design with gschem. So, I added pcb output. I haven't tested it on an real PCB designs, so there are probably some goobers. If you do use

Re: gEDA-user: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Michael Sokolov
Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Free EDA Users Group will meet this coming *Wednesday*, December > 6th. As usual, let's meet at the Starbucks across the street from > Quantum Books on Ames St, between Main St and Broadway. It's about 1 > block away from the Kendall Sq "T" stop.

Re: gEDA-user: LED in reverse

2006-11-28 Thread John Doty
On Nov 28, 2006, at 1:32 AM, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Does the gold increase only 1/f noise or also the broadband (white) noise? Broadband. The main effect is to reduce beta by promoting recombination. That increases base current shot noise: every additional recombination event is one electron's

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread DJ Delorie
> Maybe one of the participants can bring a wireless laptop and we can > try to find an open network? I have wireless on my laptop, and I have a slow cell-based service (14.4k modem) as well. The tricky bit is forwarding it to all the other laptops.

gEDA-user: Re: Wishes, bugs and misunderstandings (16-20)

2006-11-28 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
These are the next five points in my list of remarks. 16) Diodes in the default library are connected differently: Some come with the anode at pin 1 (diode-1.sym, diode2.sym, led-2.sym, schottky-1.sym, zener-4.sym). Others have pin 1 connected to the cathode (diode-3.sym, led-

Re: gEDA-user: TO-263 footprint

2006-11-28 Thread John Luciani
On 11/28/06, Jeff VR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm excited to say the status is now: works great. Glad to hear it. Thanks for the feedback. (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 07:11 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: [snip] > Good question. We have had requests for IRC (and video feed) in the > past, but haven't done anything to implement it yet. Starbucks > does have wireless service, but they have one of those evil corporate > plans where you have

Re: gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi Peter -- On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Peter Clifton wrote: [snip] The meeting will be an open and informal working session. Some time has elapsed since our last gathering and a lot has happened, so there is much to discuss! Bring your laptop! Some items on the agenda are: These two are of i

gEDA-user: Re: gEDA-announce: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Clifton
[snip] > The meeting will be an open and informal working session. Some > time has elapsed since our last gathering and a lot has happened, so > there is much to discuss! Bring your laptop! Some items on > the agenda are: > These two are of interest to us here... so I wounder if there is som

gEDA-user: Free Dog Gathering on Wed Dec 6th (one week and one day from today)

2006-11-28 Thread Stuart Brorson
-- Free Dog Gathering Announcement The Free EDA Users Group will meet this coming *Wednesday*, December 6th. As usual, let's meet at the Starbucks across the street from Quantum Books on Ames St, between Main St and Broadway. It's about 1 block away from the Kenda

gEDA-user: Error in ma gsymcheck

2006-11-28 Thread Karel Kulhavy
NAME gsymcheck SYNOPSIS gnetlist Isn't it supposed to read "SYNOPSIS gsymcheck"? CL< ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user