gEDA-user: Design with a 144 pin QFP

2008-02-02 Thread ST de Feber
Dear all, Has any one of you designed a PCB with a 144 pin QFP/TQFP package ? (with or without exposed die pad) If so, is one of you so kind to show me the PCB files ? How many layers will such a board have ? Until recently i designed boards with a max of 44 (ic) pins. So i do not feel

Re: gEDA-user: pcb-20080202

2008-02-02 Thread Levente
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:48:26 -0500 Dan McMahill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've placed a new pcb snapshot up on sourceforge. In addition to the usual source release, there is an installer for windows. Be warned that the windows build has received very little testing. The windows build works

Re: gEDA-user: Design with a 144 pin QFP

2008-02-02 Thread Steve Meier
Simon, Get your confidence up 144 pin qfp is very standard. Layers. Maybe 3 for power and ground (Vcci, Vccio and ground) 3 for signals Top, bottom and one in the middle. Even if you need analog then you can either add a few more layers or carefully manage the layers that you have. i.e if

Re: gEDA-user: Design with a 144 pin QFP

2008-02-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Feb 2, 2008, at 7:09 AM, ST de Feber wrote: Has any one of you designed a PCB with a 144 pin QFP/TQFP package ? (with or without exposed die pad) If so, is one of you so kind to show me the PCB files ? How many layers will such a board have ? Until recently i designed boards with a max

gEDA-user: gnucap warning

2008-02-02 Thread Robert Butts
I installed the gnucap that was listed in the fedora 7 package manager. The version is 0.35 and when I start gnucap I see this warning: Never trust any version less than 1.0 What's up with this, do I need to update it and if so is this done with: rpm -u?

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap warning

2008-02-02 Thread al davis
On Saturday 02 February 2008, Robert Butts wrote: Never trust any version less than 1.0 If you design a new chip, and spend $10 million to get it made, and it doesn't sell ... It's not my fault. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap warning

2008-02-02 Thread Steve Meier
If it a microsoft application it won't even function until at least 3.1 al davis wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2008, Robert Butts wrote: Never trust any version less than 1.0 If you design a new chip, and spend $10 million to get it made, and it doesn't sell ... It's not my

gEDA-user: Anybody had luck with QFN64 at PCBExpress et al?

2008-02-02 Thread Jeffrey Baker
Nearly every major part I need for my latest project is packaged in a QFN (or LFCSP as they call it over at Analog Devices). I'm worried because the parts have round leads and Sunstone, the PCB prototype shop, says they can't make radiused SMD pads. Has anyone run into trouble with this, or are

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap warning

2008-02-02 Thread Robert Butts
Seriously, why the warning? On Feb 2, 2008 2:09 PM, Steve Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it a microsoft application it won't even function until at least 3.1 al davis wrote: On Saturday 02 February 2008, Robert Butts wrote: Never trust any version less than 1.0 If you design a

Re: gEDA-user: Anybody had luck with QFN64 at PCBExpress et al?

2008-02-02 Thread joe tarantino
On Feb 2, 2008 11:23 AM, Jeffrey Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nearly every major part I need for my latest project is packaged in a QFN (or LFCSP as they call it over at Analog Devices). I'm worried because the parts have round leads and Sunstone, the PCB prototype shop, says they can't

Re: gEDA-user: Anybody had luck with QFN64 at PCBExpress et al?

2008-02-02 Thread Steve Meier
The shop I use insists that the solder mask features must be at least 5 mills wide other wise you should gang unmask the pads. Steve Meier joe tarantino wrote: On Feb 2, 2008 11:23 AM, Jeffrey Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nearly every major part I need for my

gEDA-user: finding shorts with gschem

2008-02-02 Thread David Griffith
I've finished entering a schematic and have started laying out the foil with pcb. I found that Vdd got connected to Vcc sometime during the schematic entry. Short of poring over the entire schematic, how can I find where this happens? -- David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Because it fouls

Re: gEDA-user: gnucap warning

2008-02-02 Thread al davis
On Saturday 02 February 2008, Robert Butts wrote: Seriously, why the warning? To make it legal in California. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Design with a 144 pin QFP

2008-02-02 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 12:09:37PM +, ST de Feber wrote: Has any one of you designed a PCB with a 144 pin QFP/TQFP package ? (with or without exposed die pad) I just made a board with a QFP208 (0.5mm), 100 (0.65mm rectangular) and 80 (0.65mm square). How many layers will such a board

gEDA-user: attributes net and refdes, subdesigns, power and ground?

2008-02-02 Thread Britton Kerin
I have a design with two subcircuits. I pretty much copied the gTAG example but I missed the trick of making a netname=foo wire in the toplevel and then putting an input or output with refdes=foo in the subdesigns, so my +3.3V isn't continuous through my board as intended. The odd thing is that

Re: gEDA-user: finding shorts with gschem

2008-02-02 Thread John Griessen
David Griffith wrote: I found that Vdd got connected to Vcc sometime during the schematic entry. Short of poring over the entire schematic, how can I find where this happens? You can cut apart nets and rerun gnetlist if you must stay in graphical mode...errr no, there's no higlightin in

Re: gEDA-user: finding shorts with gschem

2008-02-02 Thread David Griffith
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008, John Griessen wrote: David Griffith wrote: I found that Vdd got connected to Vcc sometime during the schematic entry. Short of poring over the entire schematic, how can I find where this happens? You can cut apart nets and rerun gnetlist if you must stay in