Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Dave N6NZ
Dan McMahill wrote: > One of these days we should just switch to the resource file format ?? which is what? -dave ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: > >> As a handy extension, it would be convenient to be able to specify a >> default unit that applies to an entire footprint, so that a unit of >> "mm" or whatever didn't have to appear after every number. > > That would be tricker because you'd have to have communication betwe

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: >> DJ is fast on the draw... by the time I saw this thread he already >> has a patch. I was thinking of doing something similar. This will >> be quite handy. > > :-) > >> As a handy extension, it would be convenient to be able to specify a >> default unit that applies to an en

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> DJ is fast on the draw... by the time I saw this thread he already > has a patch. I was thinking of doing something similar. This will > be quite handy. :-) > As a handy extension, it would be convenient to be able to specify a > default unit that applies to an entire footprint, so that a un

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Dave N6NZ
DJ Delorie wrote: >> - it is difficult for me (and no one did/do it), > > Try this. It allows "um", "mm", "mil", or "in" as suffixes after DJ is fast on the draw... by the time I saw this thread he already has a patch. I was thinking of doing something similar. This will be quite handy. As

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> given the 0.01 mill base unit I would like to have a grid of 4 mills. :SetValue(grid,4,mil) You can create a local pcb-menu.res (or gpcb-menu.res) in ~/.pcb and add that to the grid list. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://w

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Steve Meier
given the 0.01 mill base unit I would like to have a grid of 4 mills. This would allow 4 mill traces and 4 mills of clearance between traces. The grid error for 50 mill pitch components would be no greater then 2 mills the grid error for 1mm devices would be under 48 microns (~1.8 mills) for the

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> - it is difficult for me (and no one did/do it), Try this. It allows "um", "mm", "mil", or "in" as suffixes after floating point numbers (no space between), anywhere an integer is otherwise allowed. Example: Line[1.5mm 0 1.5mm 0.5 in 1mil 2mil "clearline"] Index: parse_l.l =

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> What unit should we define for PCB default units? For compatibility, the default (no units specified) should remain 0.01 mil. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Steve Meier
I would like a base unit that supports both metric and English units and that allows me to pick a grid such that the pads of metric parts and English parts always center (with a reasonable tolerance) upon the grid Allowing me to snap traces to the grid for boards with both types. Steve Meier On

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Larry Doolittle
Steven - On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 02:57:33PM -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: > Remember the high school science teacher docking points for not using > units? It's burned into my skull! > What unit should we define for PCB default units? > They are mill/100, one hundred thousandth of an inch, or

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
This allows for nm or feet, I like it! add units not confusion! Remember the high school science teacher docking points for not using units? What unit should we define for PCB default units? They are mill/100, one hundred thousandth of an inch, or a dmil; deci-mil ha ha a pun for a uni

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Tamas Szabo
DJ Delorie wrote: >> So I made a really simple patch of parse_y.y, by which I can use um >> (micrometer) to specify the items. The format is same as in "[" "]" case >> but the specifier is "<" and ">". All the other thing is the same. > > Please, no more "syntax determines content" patches. If

Re: gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
> So I made a really simple patch of parse_y.y, by which I can use um > (micrometer) to specify the items. The format is same as in "[" "]" case > but the specifier is "<" and ">". All the other thing is the same. Please, no more "syntax determines content" patches. If you want um, let it pars

gEDA-user: Using mm units in .pcb files

2008-06-10 Thread Tamas Szabo
Dear All, Nowadays I find lot of datasheets, in which the dimensions are appear only in metric system. I don't know whether any of you interested in creating footprints in mm instead of mil or mil/100, but it was a nightmare for me to calculate every value from metric to English units. So I

Re: gEDA-user: Blind & Buried Vias

2008-06-10 Thread Steve Meier
having slept on this You can do this as a single project. But you need to split the plated cnc file up into two files. One file for your blind vias and a second for the vias that penetrate all layers. My understanding is that if you do this as a four layer board, the fab shop will build the

Re: gEDA-user: Blind & Buried Vias

2008-06-10 Thread gene
I recently read about having the pcb fab house drill out vias from the surface to some depth. The article discussed using this technique to reduce stubs in the Z-axis, but I think it would work in your case too. I have no experience here though, and can't say if the operation is an expensive