Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Meier
you'all do realize i laughed tears flowing out of my eyes DJ Delorie wrote: >> After I dump them on the board near where I'm working, I just pick >> up the upside-down ones and drop them until they land right-side up. >> > > "No, silly, those are for the other side of the board." > > > __

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Meier
Hard responding after the next couple of irelevent repies... tears in my eyes from laughing... ok sure we expect the assembly shop to do their job perfect but they seem to come back with any excuse to justify why they are late. Uhm I am not sure we are much better with our custimers human nature an

Re: gEDA-user: Suggestions for using a capacitive sensor IC

2008-07-18 Thread DJ Delorie
For plain circles, smt pads are easier and better. If you wanted to do a resistive touch sensor with a circle with a ring around it, you'd do the circle as a pad and a smaller circle (radius == ring width) beside it. Then, when you lay out the board, add an arc centered on the big pad, intersect

Re: gEDA-user: Suggestions for using a capacitive sensor IC

2008-07-18 Thread Dave N6NZ
How about just making a small copper arc with a big, fat track? Of course, there is no component and footprint this way. -dave DJ Delorie wrote: > If you just want a round electrode, define your footprint as a single > SMT pad, rounded, with the same width and height. This gives you a > big circl

Re: gEDA-user: Suggestions for using a capacitive sensor IC

2008-07-18 Thread DJ Delorie
If you just want a round electrode, define your footprint as a single SMT pad, rounded, with the same width and height. This gives you a big circle of copper. You can set the mask size to 0 to have it covered (you don't need electrical connectivity). If you're having the boards assembled elsewh

gEDA-user: Suggestions for using a capacitive sensor IC

2008-07-18 Thread Robert Butts
I started to create a schematic for a capacitive sensing circuit to be used in an interface for a project I'm working on. I'm using Quantum's QTouch QT240 IC. I have yet to use PCB and I'd like to get suggestions on how to represent the electrodes and their footprints in the schematic. I'm using t

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Steven Michalske
I like using the other side resistors like caps, there both white they do the same thing then. On Jul 18, 2008, at 4:37 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> After I dump them on the board near where I'm working, I just pick >> up the upside-down ones and drop them until they land right-side up. > >

Re: gEDA-user: export to BRL-CAD

2008-07-18 Thread Dave McGuire
On Fri, July 18, 2008 7:44 pm, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > BRL-CAD is broken by design. It suffers from many weaknesses. Not > packeged in major linux distros is just one of them. That's a pretty strong statement. BRL-CAD has been used with great success by the US military for many, many years, s

gEDA-user: export to BRL-CAD

2008-07-18 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
from geda-bugs, written by Csanyi Pal: > In xgsch2pcb I wish to have an option to show the PCB in 3D model > when it is accomplished in pcb tool. > I think that there is a possibility to write a script that should > to make an output file for the BRL-CAD free modelling system. > From xgsch2pcb

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread DJ Delorie
> After I dump them on the board near where I'm working, I just pick > up the upside-down ones and drop them until they land right-side up. "No, silly, those are for the other side of the board." ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org htt

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:14:19PM -0700, Steve Meier wrote: > > Another example of the fifty fifty rule. Given two choices I will pick > the wrong one 80 percent of the time. You know, I actually rely on that when assembling SMT resistors. After I dump them on the board near where I'm working,

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 16:14 -0700, Steve Meier wrote: > Reversed polarized cap? Those ones are easy to find upon power up :) > > I don't think it is sufficient to rely upon the silk screen to provide > assembly instructions. > > For cases like this you really need to provide written assembly > in

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Meier
Reversed polarized cap? Those ones are easy to find upon power up :) I don't think it is sufficient to rely upon the silk screen to provide assembly instructions. For cases like this you really need to provide written assembly instructions and make following them part of the purchase terms. But

gEDA-user: suffix for Verilog include files

2008-07-18 Thread Larry Doolittle
Friends - OK, really stupid question: is there a "standard" suffix to use for Verilog include files? I need something different from .v, so my Makefiles and scripts can tell them apart: include files don't get listed on the Icarus command line, even though they are a dependency listed in the Make

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 11:45 -0700, Dave N6NZ wrote: > Steven Michalske wrote: > > >> Worked almost right away. Note red wire and missing pullup. Keeps me > >> humble. > > > > Green wires are less humbling, i suggest them. > > I look at design efforts like golf. Low scores are better, but nob

Re: gEDA-user: Using tragesym with Emacs org-mode tables almost successful

2008-07-18 Thread Csányi Pál
Werner Hoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi, > Hi there, > > On Dienstag, 15. Juli 2008, Csányi Pál wrote: >> I tried to use tragesym with my favorite text editor Emacs. >> I'm using org-mode in Emacs in which one can to create tables. >> and I get an error message: >> >> Traceback (most recen

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:10:09 -0700 Traylor Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gang, > I've now finished my third board with gschem/gaf + PCB. I post > these pictures as an encouragement to others. I was was discouraged > at times learning the tools but with the help and support available

Re: gEDA-user: Using tragesym with Emacs org-mode tables almost successful

2008-07-18 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi there, On Dienstag, 15. Juli 2008, Csányi Pál wrote: > I tried to use tragesym with my favorite text editor Emacs. > I'm using org-mode in Emacs in which one can to create tables. > > So I edited the tragesym template.src and made in it the tables for > [options], [geda_attr] and [pins]. I sa

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Dave N6NZ
Steven Michalske wrote: >> Worked almost right away. Note red wire and missing pullup. Keeps me >> humble. > > Green wires are less humbling, i suggest them. I look at design efforts like golf. Low scores are better, but nobody plays a round with 18 holes-in-one in a row. My most humbling:

Re: gEDA-user: Success with gEDA tools...

2008-07-18 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jul 17, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Traylor Roger wrote: > Gang, > I've now finished my third board with gschem/gaf + PCB. I post > these pictures as an encouragement to others. I was was discouraged > at times learning the tools but with the help and support available > I finally pushed out some g