gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Andrea Grillini
I've just noticed Ben Jackson's message telling about a subject I've inevitably at heart. I've still to buy a laser printer that is good to conveniently print on transparencies to produce PCBs at home. I wonder what the people in this mailing list can tell about this, possibly where they have

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-23 Thread David C. Kerber
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evan foss Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:55 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea ... On behalf of the Bostonians on the list let me say thanks for your

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-23 Thread Rick Collins
Is there a reason that this is being discussed in this mailing list? It is hard to keep up with all the mailing lists I subscribe to. Stuff like this tends to push readers to remove themselves from the list. Can we keep the signal to noise down as much as possible? Rick At 07:50 AM

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-23 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:50 AM, David C. Kerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evan foss Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:55 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread John Griessen
Andrea Grillini wrote: I've just noticed Ben Jackson's message telling about a subject I've inevitably at heart. I've still to buy a laser printer that is good to conveniently print on transparencies to produce PCBs at home. I wonder what the people in this mailing list can tell about this,

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
I've still to buy a laser printer that is good to conveniently print on transparencies to produce PCBs at home. If you mean for photofilm exposure, don't. Toner doesn't block enough UV to do that, you need an inkjet. In my case, my laserjet 2550N only provides two steps of UV blocking (er,

gEDA-user: [Fwd: Re: Laser printer reports?]

2008-09-23 Thread Robas, Teodor
Oops, foil != thin sheet. Sorry for the confusion. Andrea Grillini wrote: I've just noticed Ben Jackson's message telling about a subject I've inevitably at heart. I've still to buy a laser printer that is good to conveniently print on transparencies to produce PCBs at home. I wonder what

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Andrea Grillini
John Griessen wrote: HP laserjet 4 Si printers work, (old and heavy), they do 600 dpi, the toner can have pinholes. Do you mean a Laserjet 4 is a safe purchase for the photo method? I've been generically told old printers are better in printing on transparencies since in the past

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Andrea Grillini
DJ Delorie wrote: If you mean for photofilm exposure, don't. Toner doesn't block enough UV to do that, you need an inkjet. In my case, my laserjet 2550N only provides two steps of UV blocking (er, it lets half the light through, think decibels) where my inkjet's black ink provides eight

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
Then, what is your inkjet printer? ;-) I use an Epson R280 with either Silkjet or Jetstar films. You can try regular inkjet transparencies, but the special films have drying agents on them that prevent pretty much all smearing and running, assuming you print on the coated side ;-) The R280

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Rick Collins
At 10:33 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote: John Griessen wrote: HP laserjet 4 Si printers work, (old and heavy), they do 600 dpi, the toner can have pinholes. Do you mean a Laserjet 4 is a safe purchase for the photo method? I've been generically told old printers are better in printing on

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Rick Collins
At 11:56 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Its even ok to post that you are looking for a particular printer. I really hate it when people ask for stuff on freecycle. That's just my opinion, of course. I know, it seems like beggars shouldn't be choosers, but that is not what Freecycle is about.

gEDA-user: auto routing with variable track width

2008-09-23 Thread Endre Bak
Hi, Is there any way to tell PCB that which pins are power pins and which pins are signal pins? Then tell PCB to select only those rats which connect power pins or which connect signal pins? This way power lines could be auto routed with wide tracks and signal lines could be auto routed with

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Dan McMahill
w b wrote: Hi, Does PCB plan to support the free online router? The router is here: http://freerouting.net/ Bing Looks like that router uses specctra .dsn format files for input and output. I've looked a little at the specctra .dsn format in the past. It is not all that complicated and

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Rick Collins
At 12:33 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: Looks like that router uses specctra .dsn format files for input and output. I've looked a little at the specctra .dsn format in the past. It is not all that complicated and it does suggest some features missing from pcb if you wanted to fully take advantage

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
It's not that, it's that on our list the wanteds are more common than the offers, and they're asking for things like laptops, cars, and cell phones. I don't mind someone asking for empty jars though. I feel like asking for a mansion with a ferrari just to make my point obvious.

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 12:33 -0400 schrieb Dan McMahill: But I'm not aware of a published specification of the format which would be needed to teach PCB to export a layout to the router or import the results. If anyone knows of such a thing (legal copies only please) that

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread joel silvestre
Le mardi 23 septembre 2008 à 11:06 -0400, DJ Delorie a écrit : Note that in order to get real black I had to modify the gimp's ink metrics (change the claria density from 0.8 to 4.0 in the gutenprint files) otherwise it helpfully dithered the ink to get the right shades of black. Also, this

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Jul-2004/msg00060.html I know about the green trick, but I haven't used it for three reasons: 1. My undithered black blocks enough UV already. 2. The alignment between the two colors isn't as good as I'd hoped. 3. I can replace the black ink for less money

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 09:26:45AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: I've still to buy a laser printer that is good to conveniently print on transparencies to produce PCBs at home. If you mean for photofilm exposure, don't. Toner doesn't block enough UV to do that, you need an inkjet. Actually

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-23 Thread John Doty
On Sep 21, 2008, at 4:08 PM, John Luciani wrote: Pictures of the MIT Gehry building are at the bottom of the page. http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp? mscssid=G878LBUV9U2N9J0DS8WTVFRFLK5B1K45sitetype=1did=4sid=44345pid=

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
My problem with the color toners is I can't convince my printer (HP 2550N) to *not* dither. The toner density is magic and out of my control. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Laser printer reports?

2008-09-23 Thread John Griessen
Andrea Grillini wrote: John Griessen wrote: HP laserjet 4 Si printers work, (old and heavy), they do 600 dpi, the toner can have pinholes. Do you mean a Laserjet 4 is a safe purchase for the photo method? No. ONly for toner heat transfer. John G PS I recently bought a new Epson R280

Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-23 Thread evan foss
On 9/23/08, John Luciani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:50 AM, David C. Kerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of evan foss Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:55 PM To:

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 12:33 -0400 schrieb Dan McMahill: But I'm not aware of a published specification of the format which would be needed to teach PCB to export a layout to the router or import the results. If anyone knows of such a thing (legal copies

Re: gEDA-user: auto routing with variable track width

2008-09-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:31:49 -0700, Endre Bak wrote: Both methods are time consuming, annoying and error prone. Is there a better way? None, that I know of in pcb. But protel can attach different default routing parameters and (more importantly) different DRC parameters to sets of nets. This

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 17:36 -0400 schrieb Dan McMahill: A Google search gives this PDF document: http://www.eltm.ru/store/spdlr.pdf yes, but it is not clear that the copyrighted material there can be used :( Yes, I posted this link only in case someone is interested to have

Re: gEDA-user: auto routing with variable track width

2008-09-23 Thread DJ Delorie
The netlist pcb loads has an option for specifying the route style for each net, but as far as I know, nothing actually creates or uses that option. I did mention this to Tony and he said the router *could* do it eventually, but not yet. ___

Re: gEDA-user: auto routing with variable track width

2008-09-23 Thread Anthony Blake
DJ Delorie wrote: The netlist pcb loads has an option for specifying the route style for each net, but as far as I know, nothing actually creates or uses that option. I did mention this to Tony and he said the router *could* do it eventually, but not yet. Yes, it currently imports the

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 17:36 -0400 schrieb Dan McMahill: A Google search gives this PDF document: http://www.eltm.ru/store/spdlr.pdf yes, but it is not clear that the copyrighted material there can be used :( Yes, I posted this link only in case someone is

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread Anthony Blake
Stefan Salewski wrote: But maybe the new pcb router of Anthony Blake is the better, really free way. Yes, I'm still working on the autorouter. The algorithms in the autorouter I implemented for the summer of code give great solutions to some problems, but they really fail on others. So

Re: gEDA-user: Free router support?

2008-09-23 Thread John Griessen
Anthony Blake wrote: I haven't had much time in the last few weeks as I've been catching up with school work, finding a new house, and I've had the flu.. =( I appreciate what you've done, and do catch up with school work, and just dream about the commitment to a certain topology early on