Re: gEDA-user: resize gschem symbol

2009-06-10 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 00:29:04 Mark Rages wrote: my reinvented wheel: http://vivara.net/software/gschem-resize.py of course, I think it's more readable. You owe me a new brain. I broke the last one trying to read that. :-/ Peter -- Peter Brett

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Kai-Martin Knaakk...@familieknaak.de wrote: Avoid small tips.  Soldering is so much easier if the tip is short and broad. Its all about heat flow. A small tip has a hard time to heat a pad connected to a ground plane. Use the largest tip that fits between the

Re: gEDA-user: gschem handles are tied to schematic size, not screen size

2009-06-10 Thread Mark Rages
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Peter Cliftonpc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 20:16 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: If a line is selected, a square-shaped handle appears on each end. However, when I zoom in these handles become bigger.  This defeats the point of zooming in, because it

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 21:51 -0400, Mark wrote: Sooo... It looks really smooth. I like it a lot. I'll try to give it a run for the money tomorrow afternoon and will let you know if I find anything. Thanks. Testing is, as always, appreciated. The main known bug is some issues with tab

Re: gEDA-user: Can we fix the HTML stripping on this list?

2009-06-10 Thread der Mouse
However, when properly used, rich text enhances email messages significantly, increasing clarity and visual appeal of a message. Even if true, what does that have to do with the list? Do you believe it is possible to use RTF properly in email between people who have no prior arrangement?

gEDA-user: pin numbering for wob package

2009-06-10 Thread Cyril Hrubis
Hi, I'm about to create footprint for bridge recfilter in wob package. It's the rounded one with four pins, see for example http://www.a1parts.com/Diodes/wob_package_silicon_passivated_b.htm The problem is pin numbering, there doesn't seem to be any standart pin numbering for wob package (after

gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
I got tired of not knowing which version of PCB I was using. linux guys, add your own real name detection :-) 0001-Adding-build-info-to-about-box.patch Description: Binary data ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: Can someone recommend the easiest solder to work with (% lead, No lead. *PUKE* I've stocked up on real solder. The unleaded crap sucks. I've found SnAgCu0.7 as easy for hand soldering as the Sn60Pb I used before. Hmm,

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Well said. Tiny tips and tiny solder are the wrong approach. Of course, size is relative. 0.020 solder and 0.020 tip come in handy when soldering 0201 or 0402 parts, or trying to fix a single pin on 0.5mm pitch. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: Can we fix the HTML stripping on this list?

2009-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Also, the discussion was about HTML, not RTF. Rich text is a generic term. HTML provides rich text. RTF also provides rich text. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
1. Requiring GIT for everyone building pcb sounds extreme; could we auto-detect whether GIT is available? 2. Building buildInfo.h *every* time is bad. It should only be built if there's some other reason to build pcb (i.e. the commands should go in with the link commands) 3. For

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread John Griessen
Rob Butts wrote: I'm getting some components on digikey and I also want to get some supplies to prototype some home-made circuit boards. I haven't done tech work in years and have a new aide who hasn't done much soldering at all. I want to get solder but want to get what's

Re: gEDA-user: pin numbering for wob package

2009-06-10 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Cyril Hrubis wrote: The problem is pin numbering, All I'll say is that the 4 pin ones are the hardest. I made a board with several hundred+ pin packages where I made the symbols and footprints. And I made a fancy 4-pad footprint that would accept

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:30:40 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Sorry, I nuked support for that scaling command - since the correct default to match on-screen and printed are hard-coded in that branch. Ok. There was a wart showing up at this occasion. gschem silently quit reading the resource file

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Frank Miles
Since DJ mentioned impedance level concerns associated with different kinds of flux: please note that the flux pen shown in John Luciani's generally excellent recommendations leads to seriously low electrical conductivity. [At least for high-impedance analog circuits]. It's a pretty aggressive

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread John Luciani
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Frank Milesf...@u.washington.edu wrote: Since DJ mentioned impedance level concerns associated with different kinds of flux: please note that the flux pen shown in John Luciani's generally excellent recommendations leads to seriously low electrical

Re: gEDA-user: resize gschem symbol

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:36:57 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: I'm not resizing a whole schematic, just assembling one of those mini-schematics-within-a-symbol. This is cool. So you not only shrink but also turn wires into pure graphic. It would make for a valuable plug-in. :-) ---(kaimartin)--- --

Re: gEDA-user: Pin-pin rubberbanding

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 26 May 2009 02:14:58 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: What version of gschem is it based on? My cairo branch, + some local stuff. It should apply to git HEAD though (untested). I tried to apply the patch to your cairo branch (git checkout -b cairo_experiment origin/cairo_experiment).

Re: gEDA-user: Can we fix the HTML stripping on this list?

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:20:30 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Also, the discussion was about HTML, not RTF. Rich text is a generic term. HTML provides rich text. RTF also provides rich text. I like to read the mailinglist with a Usenet client via gmane because of better threading. So I wouldn't

Re: gEDA-user: gschem handles are tied to schematic size, not screen size

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:58:38 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: Before: http://vivara.net/images/huge_grips.png After: http://vivara.net/images/smaller_grips.png This small change is a big usability improvement for me. I'll second that. The whole concept of scaling handles is a pain. They should

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:53:35 +0200, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: I've found SnAgCu0.7 as easy for hand soldering as the Sn60Pb I used before. I agree, that an experienced hand tends to find no much difference. However, this is the kind of solder that made some of my colleagues boykott the

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Dave McGuire
On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: I've found SnAgCu0.7 as easy for hand soldering as the Sn60Pb I used before. I agree, that an experienced hand tends to find no much difference. However, this is the kind of solder that made some of my colleagues boykott the mandatory use

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:35:01PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Frank Milesf...@u.washington.edu wrote: Since DJ mentioned impedance level concerns associated with different kinds of flux: please note that the flux pen shown in John Luciani's generally

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: I've been soldering for 33 years now, no inexperienced hands here. The Pb-free stuff I've tried has just plain sucked. I will try the stuff Philipp mentioned though. If you've got a nice Metcal you may find that their

Re: gEDA-user: Soldering supplies

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:44:26PM -0400, Dave McGuire wrote: I've been soldering for 33 years now, no inexperienced hands here. The Pb-free stuff I've tried has just plain sucked. I will try the stuff Philipp mentioned though. If

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:30 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: 1. Requiring GIT for everyone building pcb sounds extreme; could we auto-detect whether GIT is available? It should auto detect git. It was late but the second case statement was for when git was not present. to fall back on OS based methods

Re: gEDA-user: [PCB] patch: Add build info script and header

2009-06-10 Thread DJ Delorie
Because of the way that the scripts runs, if git is not present the #defines for git are not created, so the git based lines are not included sources, through the ifdefs. Right, but whoever's making the distribution should have git... ___

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 18:21 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:30:40 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Sorry, I nuked support for that scaling command - since the correct default to match on-screen and printed are hard-coded in that branch. Ok. There was a wart showing up

Re: gEDA-user: Pin-pin rubberbanding

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 19:04 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 02:14:58 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: What version of gschem is it based on? My cairo branch, + some local stuff. It should apply to git HEAD though (untested). I tried to apply the patch to your cairo

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-10 Thread Mark
On Wed June 10 2009 05:46:43 am Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 21:51 -0400, Mark wrote: Sooo... It looks really smooth. I like it a lot. I'll try to give it a run for the money tomorrow afternoon and will let you know if I find anything. Thanks. Testing is, as always,

gEDA-user: Narrow Pads in RESC1608L

2009-06-10 Thread John Luciani
I am wondering if the RESC1608L pad length is correct. The difference between the RESC1608L and CAPC1608L is apx 30%. The difference between RESC2012L and CAPC2012L is about 10%. I have not looked at heights or calculated the values using the IPC-7351 equations. The RESC1608L pads look very narrow

Re: gEDA-user: resize gschem symbol

2009-06-10 Thread Dan McMahill
Mark Rages wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Stefan Salewskim...@ssalewski.de wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:47 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: Before I write a script to do it: is there an easy or gui way to scale / resize a gschem symbol? Regards, Mark markra...@gmail Resizing symbols is

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:33:08 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: I doubt it quit reading the rc file silently, something should have shown up in the log - or on stdout. Did you see anything like that? Like I said, there was a note in the status window: /-- In unknown file: ?: 0*

Re: gEDA-user: Pin-pin rubberbanding

2009-06-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:35:32 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: New patch against latest code is attached. Basically just add a toplevel as the first parameter to s_page_append() (snip) --- gschem/src/o_move.c | 15 +++ 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff