Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 24 October 2009 00:33:41 Peter Clifton wrote: I'm of the mind that we should (in an ideal world) _remove_ all automatic attribute promotion (perhaps excepting the special case of symversion), and define some new rules as to how an aggregate list of attributes is constructed from a

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:36:15 Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:17 -0700, Jared Casper wrote: Are you sure? I think that was deleted in this commit: o_complex_copy() definitely still calls o_complex_remove_promotable_attribs. Not sure why though. Doh.. I didn't

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 24 October 2009 07:37:04 Peter TB Brett wrote: On Saturday 24 October 2009 00:33:41 Peter Clifton wrote: I'm of the mind that we should (in an ideal world) _remove_ all automatic attribute promotion (perhaps excepting the special case of symversion), and define some new rules as

Re: gEDA-user: Information on PCB

2009-10-24 Thread Ineiev
On 10/23/09, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Settings.init_done = 0; - if (Settings.ScriptFilename) -{ - Message (_(Executing startup script file %s\n), - Settings.ScriptFilename); - hid_actionl (ExecuteFile, Settings.ScriptFilename, NULL); -} -

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, I lost my layer colors

2009-10-24 Thread Ineiev
Hi, I've just pushed another revision of the patch set to gitorious; git clone git://gitorious.org/~ineiev/pcb/clon_ineieva.git cd clon_ineieva git checkout -b attributes origin/attributes should work, or in case it has already been cloned, git fetch origin; git checkout master git branch -D

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 07:57 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: Ales' criteria is, Changing user workflows is verboten, apparently. Which is fair enough.. but I'm not convinced how much this really changes the work-flow. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 24 October 2009 15:21:22 Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 07:57 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: Ales' criteria is, Changing user workflows is verboten, apparently. Which is fair enough.. but I'm not convinced how much this really changes the work-flow. I agree, as I

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:10 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Saturday 24 October 2009 15:21:22 Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 07:57 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: Ales' criteria is, Changing user workflows is verboten, apparently. Which is fair enough.. but I'm not convinced

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 17:17 -0700, Jared Casper wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: This is a really nasty and troublesome issue, and there are lots of subtleties which can catch you out - such as embedded complex objects. I figured as much... :)

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread michalwd1979
Hello all, I'm playing around with 3d version of pcb from git, and today I've lost about 3 hours of my work because of a strange crash. I've clicked in drc window and pcb exited leaving only a few failed to create pixmap lines in terminal. No segfault no any other info. I couldn't reproduce

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:28 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello all, I'm playing around with 3d version of pcb from git, and today I've lost about 3 hours of my work because of a strange crash. Because you are a fool. Sorry. We all know that the 3d version is experimental. Should the

gEDA-user: How do I better proportion objects on screen?

2009-10-24 Thread Barry Demers
I am just starting out here, and am quite excited about this suite. I do need some help in composing my first schematic, so perhaps someone can tell me where to find in the help docs, or maybe tell me directly, how to best handle this scenario: Using gschem, I start a new page and

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:28 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello all, I'm playing around with 3d version of pcb from git, and today I've lost about 3 hours of my work because of a strange crash. I've clicked in drc window and pcb exited leaving only a few failed to create pixmap lines in

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Jared Casper
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Unless there is anyone available to work on implementing it, the point is moot anyway! While that is true, if those with enough experience and clout in the project were to spend the time to agree on a plan, or a direction at

Re: gEDA-user: How do I better proportion objects on screen?

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 14:36 -0400, Barry Demers wrote: I am just starting out here, and am quite excited about this suite. I do need some help in composing my first schematic, so perhaps someone can tell me where to find in the help docs, or maybe tell me directly, how to best handle

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:41 -0700, Jared Casper wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: Unless there is anyone available to work on implementing it, the point is moot anyway! While that is true, if those with enough experience and clout in the project

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:28 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello all, I'm playing around with 3d version of pcb from git, and today I've lost about 3 hours of my work because of a strange crash. I've clicked in drc window and pcb exited leaving only a few failed to create pixmap lines in

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:52 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 19:28 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello all, I'm playing around with 3d version of pcb from git, and today I've lost about 3 hours of my work because of a strange crash. I've clicked in drc window and pcb

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread michalwd1979
Hello Peter, I'm not able to reproduce it either, nor is valgrind complaining when I run a DRC. I'm hoping you will be able to find the missing backup file, and that we can try reproducing the bug from that. Thanks for explanation about backups. my_filename.pcb- did not existed after

gEDA-user: PS PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread michalwd1979
PS. I have PCI Ati Radeon with open-source drivers (gentoo), but I never noticed any problems with them (blender, stellarium, glxgears all works OK). Anyway I would expect rather total crash of X when the driver is broken, but I'm not 100% sure about this.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:40 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello Peter, I'm not able to reproduce it either, nor is valgrind complaining when I run a DRC. I'm hoping you will be able to find the missing backup file, and that we can try reproducing the bug from that. Thanks for

Re: gEDA-user: How do I better proportion objects on screen?

2009-10-24 Thread Duncan Drennan
You can also change the default title block symbol. Put the following line into your gschemrc file: (define default-titleblock title-A3.sym) Replace “title-A3.sym” with the file name of your favorite title block symbol. (from the gschem FAQ,

Re: gEDA-user: How do I better proportion objects on screen?

2009-10-24 Thread John Griessen
Barry Demers wrote: representative A size sheet, maybe a B. In any event, the It's arranged as A size, but gschem symbols are large for that. Using a B size works better for most people. bring in a connector symbol (a 6 pin single inline) and egads, its(with great exageration) 1/4 of

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 20:52 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:40 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Loading file 334a_tunning.pcb took 0.77 The program 'pcb' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadDrawable

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread michalwd1979
Hello Peter, Thanks for explanation about backups. my_filename.pcb- did not existed after the crash, I only had my original file. Crash happened shortly after starting pcb. I'm confused now. I thought you said you lost 3 hours work - in which case, I'd have presumed the file would have

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 21:40 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Stefan, Read my mail to the end. I'm not blaming developers, I'm asking about backups and reporting possible bug. Regards, Michael W. I read that mail to its end. (Indeed I read not much other mails of you -- one reason is that I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 22:22 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote: Hello Peter, Thanks for explanation about backups. my_filename.pcb- did not existed after the crash, I only had my original file. Crash happened shortly after starting pcb. I'm confused now. I thought you said you lost 3

gEDA-user: [OT] Full names, Was: [Re: PCB+GL testing]

2009-10-24 Thread Jason
Stefan Salewski wrote: I read that mail to its end. (Indeed I read not much other mails of you -- one reason is that I like to know the full name of people when reading their posts) Not to start a flame of any sort, but just to let you know the POV of the other side. Potential employers

Re: gEDA-user: unpromoted visible attributes

2009-10-24 Thread John Doty
On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Saturday 24 October 2009 07:37:04 Peter TB Brett wrote: On Saturday 24 October 2009 00:33:41 Peter Clifton wrote: I'm of the mind that we should (in an ideal world) _remove_ all automatic attribute promotion (perhaps excepting the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 20:36 -0400, Mark wrote: Actually, I can reproduce it consistently and constantly and it's been happening for a few months. Updating to the latest git has never solved it either. Good.. always helps to figure out how to fix a problem... --- Error - $

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL testing

2009-10-24 Thread Mark
On Sun October 25 2009 12:24:42 am Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 20:36 -0400, Mark wrote: However, if I run Window - DRC Check I can resize the empty window all day long. At least, right up until I hit the Refresh button. Then it crashes. Bizarre. I can't reproduce here