Re: gEDA-user: Analog books

2009-11-25 Thread Andy Fierman
Now don't open your presents all at once! Save some to read for the rest of those long dark winter nights . :) Cheers, Andy. www.signality.co.uk 2009/11/24 Karl Hammar k...@aspodata.se: A lot of people responding: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Karl Hammar k...@aspodata.se

gEDA-user: Books about PCB design

2009-11-25 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi all, after the request for books about analogue electronic design, I thought it might be nice to see whehter there is any book about PCB design. In particular I would be interested in the magic and voodoo parts. - pcb materials, electromechanical consideration, etc. - crosstalk, stray

Re: gEDA-user: Books about PCB design

2009-11-25 Thread Bob Paddock
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Torsten Wagner torsten.wag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, after the request for books about analogue electronic design, I thought it might be nice to see whehter there is any book about PCB design.

Re: gEDA-user: Books about PCB design

2009-11-25 Thread Andy Fierman
Hi Torsten, Have a wander round: http://www.cherryclough.com/Pages/Publications%20and%20downloads.htm and http://www.signalintegrity.com/ After all, push your signal fast enough and you can no longer treat the PCB and the schematic as separate entities. Cheers, Andy.

Re: gEDA-user: Books about PCB design

2009-11-25 Thread asomers
High Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic by Johnson and Graham is a great text for anyone interested in signal integrity and EMI. It's no spring chicken, but PCB technology hasn't actually advanced much these last 16 years; it's just gotten cheaper and more available. I found the

Re: gEDA-user: Do any gEDA users depend on tear-off menus with GTK? (Using gEDA apps)

2009-11-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:54:57 -0800, Anthony Shanks wrote: I was just wondering if anyone actually used the feature? I do. And I routinely tear off Settings and Select-Select_by_name My desktop is two monitors, so there is enough screen real estate. I tend to switch settings a lot. So it is

Re: gEDA-user: Do any gEDA users depend on tear-off menus with GTK? (Using gEDA apps)

2009-11-25 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 16:57 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Speak now - or loose it. done. I should have been clear.. don't speak to me.. speak to the GTK developers ;) Best wishes, Peter C. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Stefan Salewski
Currently we start new layouts in PCB with a bunch of footprints auto dispersed. As Kai-Martin said recently, position of symbols in schematics is closely related to position on PCB. May it make sense to start a new PCB layout direct from a view with symbols? Clicking on a symbol (or selecting

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 08:49:16PM +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: Currently we start new layouts in PCB with a bunch of footprints auto dispersed. I wrote a 'smart disperse' plugin: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/ben_jackson/geda-user/smartdisperse.txt You could try to improve the

Re: gEDA-user: howto print with pcb -x eps ?

2009-11-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:08:17 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: That's the way (although I use ps not eps for batch printing), but don't put spaces in the layer stack string. Also, watch the pcb output for warnings about mis-named layers. Ok, I toyed a little with this. Spaces are successfully

Re: gEDA-user: Do any gEDA users depend on tear-off menus with GTK? (Using gEDA apps)

2009-11-25 Thread Karl Hammar
Peter Clifton: I just came across a proposal to remove the tear-off menu feature in GTK. Whilst generally none of our business how up-stream tool-kits alter their UI - outside of its programming interface, I was just wondering if anyone actually used the feature? Since I am new to geda, I

Re: gEDA-user: howto print with pcb -x eps ?

2009-11-25 Thread DJ Delorie
It takes layer GROUP numbers, or layer NAMES. Layer groups are numbered starting at zero, just for inconsistency. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Do any gEDA users depend on tear-off menus with GTK? (Using gEDA apps)

2009-11-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:02:23 +, Peter Clifton wrote: done. I should have been clear.. don't speak to me.. speak to the GTK developers ;) _I_ should have been clear: I did speak to the developers via a comment to the bug report you linked to. :-) ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:41:33 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: The main advantage there is that you could place each component by clicking *once* rather than the more laborioius 1) find, 2) click drag. This is how I delegate the find task to the computer: 1) Have gschem open on the other screen.

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:49:16 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: Clicking on a symbol (or selecting multiple identical) may pop up a selector box for footprint selection. Sure. This is what every EDA suite I had the chance to have a look at, does it. After all, the schematic provides an intuitive

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread DJ Delorie
You know what would be cool? Being able to drag and drop symbols from gschem into pcb, and have it load the right footprint. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: Currently we start new layouts in PCB with a bunch of footprints auto dispersed. As Kai-Martin said recently, position of symbols in schematics is closely related to position on PCB. May it make sense to start a new PCB layout direct from a view with symbols?

Re: gEDA-user: new ethernet chip...

2009-11-25 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DJ Delorie wrote: Digikey has the new KSZ8851 series... multiple bus options (spi/8/16/32), built-in PHY, only 85 milliamps, under $10: http://www.micrel.com/page.do?page=product-info/embedded_control.jsp Anyone know anything about these

Re: gEDA-user: new ethernet chip...

2009-11-25 Thread DJ Delorie
I have an openwrt box, but I often want something other than a router, usually something where the network part is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the special-purpose part of the project. My last big project I used 32-QFN ethernet chips to reduce space!

Re: gEDA-user: new ethernet chip...

2009-11-25 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Christoph Lechner wrote: Digikey has the new KSZ8851 series... multiple bus options (spi/8/16/32), built-in PHY, only 85 milliamps, under $10: http://www.micrel.com/page.do?page=product-info/embedded_control.jsp Anyone know anything about these chips? They look

Re: gEDA-user: new ethernet chip...

2009-11-25 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DJ Delorie wrote: I have an openwrt box, but I often want something other than a router, usually something where the network part is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the special-purpose part of the project. My last big project I used 32-QFN ethernet

Re: gEDA-user: new ethernet chip...

2009-11-25 Thread Christoph Lechner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave McGuire wrote: On Nov 25, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Christoph Lechner wrote: Digikey has the new KSZ8851 series... multiple bus options (spi/8/16/32), built-in PHY, only 85 milliamps, under $10: