Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-20 Thread Armin Faltl
Peter Clifton wrote: I'm coming round to the idea that 3D is more than just eye candy if we do it nicely. It helps visualise component placement and layout issues far more readily than just looking at flat layers can do. Your brain may spot issues it wouldn't otherwise. One of the things I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL resistor p0rn

2010-11-20 Thread Vanessa Ezekowitz
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:24:56 +0900 timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: 3D renderings of through-hole components is great and all, but this IS 2010, anyone still using through-hole stuff can just use Fritzing or something. How about adding relevant features to PCB, like boolean operations on

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL resistor p0rn

2010-11-20 Thread Armin Faltl
kai-martin knaak wrote: I am playing with writing a VRML importer - which should be able to read files exported by Wings32 (like KiCad), but I can't for the life of me figure out how to drive Wings32 to create a new model! I'd strongly prefer to do 3D models with a full fledged 3D CAD

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread Armin Faltl
Patrick Doyle wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:01 PM, kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Looks like there is no open 3D exchange format that fits the need of pcb: a) render a beautiful image of a populated board b) integrate pcb in a 3D work-flow to fit the board into some tight

Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc

2010-11-20 Thread kai-martin knaak
Peter TB Brett wrote: (define %file-print file-print) (define (file-print) (print-command (format #f lp -d PDF -t \~A\ (get-selected-filename))) (gschem-use-rc-values) (%file-print)) It is horrible and nasty, but it seems to work. It does work! How does it work? By

Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc

2010-11-20 Thread kai-martin knaak
John Doty wrote: What's the current schematic at gschem startup, when gschemrc is executed? The one given on the command line? Anyway, for the purpose of the print command, the expression should be evaluated when the print dialog is brought up, not at the start of the session. The gschemrc

Re: gEDA-user: current working file name in gschemrc

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Brett
It does work! How does it work? By replacing an internal gschem script? Essentially, yes. What is the prupose of ~A in this line? It's a Scheme format specifier. I think in this case I will invite you to RTF Guile Manual, since it explains the operation of the 'format' function quite

Re: gEDA-user: exporting single pcb layers

2010-11-20 Thread chrysn
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:26:20PM +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: chrysn chr...@fsfe.org writes: [...] i need a gerber file that contains just that polygon (without holes for the pins, becaus they don't belong to the outline). Just name the layer outline without the quotes, lowercase.

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Clifton
ff they are rendered as (transparent) pipes. To help save computing time, the layers in 3D can be just flat (in a mode) - no point in seeing the sidewalls of traces for many uses, e.g. the above one. That is basically how PCB+GL renders the board. Z isn't very expanded, but you can make

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL resistor p0rn

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 03:58 -0600, Vanessa Ezekowitz wrote: Whether an external tool would do the job or not, apparently you are unaware of the immense quantity of through-hole components in use today, right now, in mass-production modern-day devices. Power supplies and audio equipment make

Re: gEDA-user: PCB+GL resistor p0rn

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 10:59 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: You might have a look at http://gts.sourceforge.net/ . PCB already uses that for the topological auto-router ;) I had a thought in the back of my mind that it might also be useful for rendering models, but I've not got that far yet. I've

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-20 Thread John Griessen
On 11/19/2010 05:02 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 13:06 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: That suits me just fine.. OpenGL_likes_ rendering triangles, and any other geometry primitives are extra work to implement;) But wouldn't support for higher-level shapes be

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread John Griessen
On 11/19/2010 08:22 PM, Peter Clifton wrote: I suppose I've been spoilt coming from a background where the only CAD I've used is PTC's Pro-Engineer, which has a really nice parametric sketch editor you can extrude or revolve parts from. HeeksCAD lets you do that. parametric sketch, then

Re: gEDA-user: new vhd2vl on its way

2010-11-20 Thread Larry Doolittle
Friends - On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:12:46PM -0800, Larry Doolittle wrote: I have a new release of vhd2vl pretty much ready to post. Version 2.4 is now posted at the usual place: http://doolittle.icarus.com/~larry/vhd2vl/ Enjoy! - Larry ___

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-20 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi John, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of John Griessen Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:13 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??] On

Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-20 Thread Armin Faltl
Peter Clifton wrote: That is basically how PCB+GL renders the board. Z isn't very expanded, but you can make out the detail. Some work would be needed if you wanted to reliably look through a section of board in a particular place though.. possibly some adjustment of layer transparency would

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread Armin Faltl
Armin Faltl wrote: Reading https://collada.org/mediawiki/index.php/COLLADA_FAQ#What_is_COLLADA.3F I believe COLLADA is a format mainly concerned about DCC (digital content creation). It's probably very good at meshes, textures and some freeform surfaces, but I didn't see anything about

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread Gareth Edwards
On 19 November 2010 23:03, Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 14:07 -0800, Colin D Bennett wrote: It has to be mentioned that Blender is free and open source but Google Sketchup is not. I took that as known, but I don't disprove of using good commercial software to

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 11:53 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote: I believe COLLADA is a format mainly concerned about DCC (digital content creation). It's probably very good at meshes, textures and some freeform surfaces, but I didn't see anything about geometric primitives like spheres, cylinders

Re: gEDA-user: a different approach to 3D modeling

2010-11-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 22:48 +, Gareth Edwards wrote: The usability of the Blender 2.5x betas is a step-change from the existing versions. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's considerably less insane. Just installed it, seems pretty good compared with 2.45. Thanks for the pointer! -- Peter

gEDA-user: Need papers of Toporouter

2010-11-20 Thread jeffrey antony
Hello , I saw the GSoC project Toporouter. It looks really nice. Very good work. I would also like to work on the Toporouter. As described in the code, can anyone provide me these(Please see below) papers (PDF copy). Also if there are any more documents, can anyone share