gEDA-user: Check for attribute conflict does not play nice with multi part symbols

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
With gnetlist 1.7.0 (g9b9080e) a new check for attribute sanity seems to be in place. Unfortunately, it does not play nice with multi part symbols. For each of my opamps, that have a separate power symbol I get: / Possible attribute conflict for refdes: U7 name: value

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi all, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Peter Clifton Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:49 PM To: gEDA user mailing list Subject: Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library On Fri,

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: I would like to see some, if not all, of these standards reflected in the pcb-lib some day _and_ these recommendations end up in the (gEDA) pcb documentation, just to prevent error 404 from happening. copy-paste would require that he releases the text under GPL, or

gEDA-user: default dir for gpcb-menu.res

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Just found out, that the pcb binary I compiled from git and installed to /usr/local uses /usr/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res Is this intentional? I'd have expected it to use /usr/local/share/pcb/gpcb-menu.res After all, this is where the gpcb-menu.res went on make install ---)kaimartin(--- --

gEDA-user: locknames - ignorenames ?

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Hi. While teaching students howto use geda/pcb, I found myself explain that lock-names does not really a lock but an ignore flag. Because, this is how it operates under the hood. In addition, the lock meme does not quite fit to the behavior. You'd expect locked text to stay in place whatever

Re: gEDA-user: locknames - ignorenames ?

2011-02-06 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Kai-Martin, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Kai-Martin Knaak Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:17 PM To: geda-u...@seul.org Subject: gEDA-user: locknames - ignorenames ? Hi. While teaching

Re: gEDA-user: locknames - ignorenames ?

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Bert Timmerman wrote: If the lock mechanism is not broken, please do not try to fix it ;-) Currently, we have two kinds of lock mechanisms in pcb. One is mediated by the lock tool. Objects locked by this tool are pinned down at their current place. There is no way to select them or generally

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 10:55 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: One of Tom's issues that is to be kept in pcb are most of the mil grids because of the bazillion perf board and mil based parts on the market, to be bought for cheap by hobby-ists, or for Quick-and-Neat proto boards (we don't play or do

Re: gEDA-user: locknames - ignorenames ?

2011-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 14:16 +0100, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Proposal: Rename Lock_Names to Ignore_Names (in the menu and in the source) Any objection? File a bug on LP please. I don't oppose, and what you suggest does may sense. The only down-side is the need to update documentation, and to

Re: gEDA-user: vertical toolbox in gschem

2011-02-06 Thread Rob Butts
What do you do with vertical_toolbar.patch? Is there something you can do to the gschemrc file? On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Mark Rages [1]markra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I switched my gschem to have a vertical toolbox on the left, rather than a horizontal toolbox

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread John Griessen
On 02/06/2011 09:24 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: Imperial parts are not a problem for a sufficiently fine metric grid. +1 I heard Tom Hausherr talk last year about grids, land pattern generators. For his suggestion to just go metric, it works with old inch spaced protoboard layouts just fine if

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread rickman
On 2/6/2011 10:24 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 10:55 +0100, Bert Timmerman wrote: One of Tom's issues that is to be kept in pcb are most of the mil grids because of the bazillion perf board and mil based parts on the market, to be bought for cheap by hobby-ists, or for

Re: gEDA-user: numslots=0

2011-02-06 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:07:06AM +0100, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Another cite from the master attribute list: /-- numslots=# should exist somewhere in the symbol and be made invisible. This is a free standing or floating attribute. If the symbol does not need slotting,

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 12:27 -0500, rickman wrote: Parts should match the rest of a system I think. The dimensions of a part can be stored in the units that best suit the system. It seems silly to store a part as metric and let the system round it off to inches on the fly rather than to

Re: gEDA-user: vertical toolbox in gschem

2011-02-06 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 10:29 -0500, Rob Butts wrote: What do you do with vertical_toolbar.patch? Is there something you can do to the gschemrc file? It was a patch against the source-code, so you would have to apply it to a checked out version of the gEDA sources and rebuild / install from

Re: gEDA-user: numslots=0

2011-02-06 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 08:47:05PM +0300, Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:07:06AM +0100, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: The master attribute list explicitly requires all symbols to contain an numslots attribute, even if slotting does not apply at all. IIRC, gnetlist does not

Re: gEDA-user: numslots=0

2011-02-06 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: This affects also the 'Symbol Creation Howto' and the gsymcheck symbol checker itself. ack. These are supposed to track the contents of the master attributes list. So yes, gsymcheck needs to be changed in unison. Would you like to change gsymcheck behaviour (that

Re: gEDA-user: vertical toolbox in gschem

2011-02-06 Thread Rob Butts
No Peter, I've never installed gEDA from rpm. I installed Fedora 14 and then through the software manager installed the gEDA software. I take it a vertical menu bar is not possible to configure in the gschemrc file? At some point I'd like to figure out the whole cvs gEDA thing.

Re: gEDA-user: New Column: From the CAD Library

2011-02-06 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 06.02.2011 um 16:24 schrieb Peter Clifton: Imperial parts are not a problem for a sufficiently fine metric grid. I don't think we should remove the option of working on a Mil grid though. I'm wondering what's the advantage of having an internal grid at all. Why not just use doubles,