Re: gEDA-user: The difference in pcb gerber and gerbv gerber

2011-08-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 03:21:24PM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: If I produce a layout in pcb and export the gerber files then load the gerber files into gerbv and export once again as gerber I get two different files I have been reading

Re: gEDA-user: The difference in pcb gerber and gerbv gerber

2011-08-12 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: gerbv and pcb are separate programs with separate gerber export code. How serious is the discrepancy? I attached the gerber for the bottom copper of a simple project as both applications export it. In a texteditor they look compleetely unrelated. If a fab happens to

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread yamazakir2
So is there a solution to this? Anybody get the wire key to work on key press rather than on click? On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:50:31 +0200 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz k.kosciuszkiew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/11 Colin D

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 04:04:47PM -0700, Andrew Poelstra wrote: Hey all, I have a pcb branch available here for testing: git clone git://wpsoftware.net/pcb-andrew.git git checkout coord6 You can now pull branch coord7 (from the same repository). It includes all the changes

Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:04:54 -0700 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: I've created gEDA/pcb footprints for the Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP / TC2030-MCP-NL connectors. The TC2030 family of cables have a special connector using spring-pin (aka pogo-pin) contacts and do not require any BOM

gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-12 Thread John Hudak
So I follow the tutorial on creating a gschem symbol ([1]http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:tragesym_tutorial), get the .ods template from [2]http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/_media/tragesym:template2.ods, fill it in with my data, save it as .csv and execute: tragesym foo.csv

Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-12 Thread John Doty
On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Colin D Bennett wrote: Question: Is there any standard special attribute that can be set on the schematic symbol so that the part (e.g., J1) does not appear on a BOM or parts list produced by gnetlist? In this case, the footprint is not designed to accept any

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
I didn't like magnetic net mode at first, because it kept guessing wrong. Since then I discovered that I was guessing wrong more than it was, so I kept it on. I think it just needs more tweaking to do the right thing more often. ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Version compatibility between gschem and PCB

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
elements. Although new pcb versions have the Import Schematics feature which somehow reads the gschem .sch files (does it call out to gnetlist or other tools, or is it self-contained?). The new way is to call gnetlist to generate a meta-data action script that pcb runs in order to generate a

Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-12 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi John, On Freitag, 12. August 2011, John Hudak wrote: So I follow the tutorial on creating a gschem symbol ( http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:tragesym_tutorial), get the .ods template from http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/_media/tragesym:template2.ods, fill it in with my data, save it as

Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-12 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 14:27 -0400, John Hudak wrote: So I follow the tutorial on creating a gschem symbol I think I have seen similar reports a few times on this list, see http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Mar-2011/msg00316.html http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Mar-2011/msg00318.html and

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread John Doty
On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:56 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I didn't like magnetic net mode at first, because it kept guessing wrong. Since then I discovered that I was guessing wrong more than it was, so I kept it on. I think it just needs more tweaking to do the right thing more often. But what the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Hammar
Andrew Poelstra: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:30:34PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: ... -#define LARGE_VALUE(LONG_MAX / 2 - 1) /* maximum extent of board and elements */ +#define LARGE_VALUELONG_MAX /* (LONG_MAX / 2 - 1) maximum extent of board and elements */ ...

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:31:39PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: Andrew Poelstra: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:30:34PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: ... -#define LARGE_VALUE(LONG_MAX / 2 - 1) /* maximum extent of board and elements */ +#define LARGE_VALUELONG_MAX /*

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
But what the right thing is depends on personal style and institutional conventions. In this case, the right thing is to do what most people expect it to do. The rest, such as yourself, can either disable it and manually place nets or change the code to do what they want.

gEDA-user: Task list for Symbol library creation.

2011-08-12 Thread Павел Таранов
While developing Wedana project, we faced with problem of the actual symbol library. So I'd like to continue conversation started here [1]http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/May-2011/msg00672.html I read the mail list and seems following is most close to the unified library: DJ

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:31:39 +0200 (CEST) k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote: Andrew Poelstra: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:30:34PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: ... -#define LARGE_VALUE(LONG_MAX / 2 - 1) /* maximum extent of board and elements */ +#define LARGE_VALUE

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Karl Hammar
Andrew Poelstra: ... You can now pull branch coord7 (from the same repository). ... And I think Karl Hammar's segfault-on-doc-compile is fixed. If not, please let me know! (Using ./autogen ./configure --with-gui=lesstif make clean make) The segfault is gone, but the missing share dir is

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
And we don't really need a signed type, do we? By using a sufficiently-large signed type, all our math is well-defined. A 32-bit signed type gives us plenty of room for today's fab limits, and if that's not enough, a central type lets us switch to 64-bit types pretty easily.

Re: gEDA-user: This patch is breaking compile

2011-08-12 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 10.08.2011 um 23:01 schrieb kqt4a...@comcast.net: On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Andrew Poelstra wrote: On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:25:35PM -0500, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: [Jun 25 patches from https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/699497] [compilation error in gcode.c] Other than 'Don't do

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the software. Good thing I've done exactly that. Peter has too. What people report is miserably unreliable as to what the *right thing* really is. I'll keep

Re: gEDA-user: This patch is breaking compile

2011-08-12 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 13.08.2011 um 00:45 schrieb Markus Hitter: For a new patchset, I can't promise a point in time. I had luck! No surprises, just rebasing commit for commit was sufficient. New patchset available: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/699497/comments/44 Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-12 Thread Bob Paddock
On another note, have any of you used spring-pin connectors for programming/debug connectors to save space and BOM cost?  I have been thinking about how I would design my own spring-pin programming We use Mill-Max 821/823 series to do AVR ISP program at work. I can get you the exact number

Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-12 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:53:52PM +0200, Karl Hammar wrote: Andrew Poelstra: ... You can now pull branch coord7 (from the same repository). ... And I think Karl Hammar's segfault-on-doc-compile is fixed. If not, please let me know! (Using ./autogen ./configure --with-gui=lesstif

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread John Doty
On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: In this case, the right thing is to do what most people expect it to do. You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the software. What people report is

Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-12 Thread Stephen Ecob
Hi Colin, On another note, have any of you used spring-pin connectors for programming/debug connectors to save space and BOM cost?  I have been thinking about how I would design my own spring-pin programming connector. I've been using AVX solo stacker 16 way parts for this type of thing:

Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-12 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi John, On Samstag, 13. August 2011, John Hudak wrote: The file is attached. Thank you for taking the time to look at it. The cells in the csv-file has a comma s seperator. tragesym expects a tab as seperator. You should use save as txt and not save as csv. It's the step5 in the tutorial: