Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread John Griessen
On 08/30/2011 04:14 PM, Russell Dill wrote: I imagine I'm not the only one running a git mirror of gedasymbols.org. If you rely on gedasymbols.org in any way, It'd be wise to do the same. Oh, it's getting handled by DJ doing a secondary DNS server setup eventually. Then the web server mirror I

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> > Some links at > > > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/essential.html > > seem to be broken: > > > href="http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/symbols/titleblock/in.sym";>out.sym > > > href="http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_marti

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:51:10PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > Some glitches: > I don't see any visual feedback which item the mouse cursor currently refers > to. > Gnome user expectation seems to be, that the item should be highlighted with > background changing to focus color. Much the

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 10:07 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > > Are you running an old version of GTK? My pcb tear-off menus are > completely nonfunctional -- clicking menu items on the torn-off menu > does not toggle the checkmark, for instance. > Works fine for gtk+-2.24.4 and pcb-20100929 shi

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: >> My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are mostly >> version 2.24.4-3 . Is this "old"? > > Testing is wheezy, squeeze got stable already in February (AFAIR). > Ouups. You are right. I still have to get used to say "wheezy"... ---<)kaimartin(>-

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: > Some links at > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/essential.html > seem to be broken: >href="http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/symbols/titleblock/in.sym";>out.sym >href="http://www.gedasymbols.org/

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread Russell Dill
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > >> Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and >> internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement). >> > Time for a mirror server on a different continent? > > I got used to rely on the presen

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 07:04:51PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Andrew Poelstra wrote: > > > User-visible changes are: > > Another minor wish: > Can you change the background of the layer chooser to the background > color gtk uses for the rest of the controls? (menu, status line, mm/mil >

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 06:51:10PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Forget about my last message on the X-windows error. (*) I just rebooted and > pcb runs fine now. Must have been some funky mix of recent updates in the > X-windows libs on my system. > Oh, thank goodness! > The new layer selec

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:58:08AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > DJ Delorie wrote: > > > I.e. if you right-click on an element, you should get a menu specific > > to that element, like "select" to select *that* element, "rotate" to > > rotate

Re: gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-30 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:51:42AM +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: > I noticed that recent PCB doesn't interpret my gpcb-menu.res file located in > ~/.pcb. > > Instead it writes the following line to the standard output/error: > > @�: No such file or directory > > and the following line to the log

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > As a reminder, the layer keyboard accelerators are: > > 1-9 Select layers 1-9 > 0 Select layer 10 > Alt+1-9 Select layers 11-19 > Alt+0 Select layer 20 > I added these to the list of keystrokes in the wiki: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pc

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 01:03:05AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > Are you running an old version of GTK? > > My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are mostly > version 2.24.4-3 . Is this "old"? Testing is wheezy, squeeze got stable already

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > - tearoffs on the right-click menu > By the way -- Why is this menu on [shift-RightClick] ? Are there any plans for plain right click? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quant

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Andrew Poelstra wrote: > User-visible changes are: Another minor wish: Can you change the background of the layer chooser to the background color gtk uses for the rest of the controls? (menu, status line, mm/mil button, route styles) Currently, it seems to be the background of input items. Bu

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Forget about my last message on the X-windows error. (*) I just rebooted and pcb runs fine now. Must have been some funky mix of recent updates in the X-windows libs on my system. The new layer selector is beautiful! I like the way the suares indicate laxyer visibility. The fact Some glitches:

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:03:05 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > Are you running an old version of GTK? > > My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are > mostly version 2.24.4-3 . Is this "old"? No, not old. I have the same 2.24.4 version (Ubun

Re: gEDA-user: New gtk menu system

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Poelstra wrote: > I have pushed the new menu system to git head. I just recloned and compiled. The resulting binary gives me the rope: / The program 'pcb' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- plaese comment.

2011-08-30 Thread Vladimir Zhbanov
Some links at http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/essential.html seem to be broken: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/symbols/titleblock/in.sym";>out.sym http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/essential/symbols/discr

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread DJ Delorie
> BTW: What are Tools->None and Tools->Cancel supposed to do? I'm guessing None is the arrow/select tool, and Cancel cancels the current operation without changing tools (i.e. if you're drawing a line, suddenly you're not drawing a line). ___ geda-use

gEDA-user: good explanations of open source licenses and copyright applied to open hardware

2011-08-30 Thread John Griessen
Just read these and very clarifying. http://perens.com/works/testimony/PerensJMRI.pdf http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3775446/Bruce-Perens-A-Big-Change-for-Open-Source.htm ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http:/

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Abhijit Kshirsagar
I'm running GTK 2.0 and like Colin's, my tear off menus are completely no functional. Just compiled from source the latest stable versions of geda and pcb and this happens in both. ~Abhijit On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 22:37, Colin D Bennett <[1]co...@gibibit.com> wrote: Are you

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DJ Delorie wrote: > I.e. if you right-click on an element, you should get a menu specific > to that element, like "select" to select *that* element, "rotate" to > rotate *that* element, etc. Such an operation makes no sense if the > popup is torn off

Re: gEDA-user: Tearoffs on popup menu in pcb?

2011-08-30 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:36:21 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > I don't think it makes sense for a popup to be tear-off-able, since > popups are supposed to be context sensitive, and if you tear it off > you lose context. > > I.e. if you right-click on an element, you should get a menu specific > to that

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote: > Yes - I got a message from DJ saying it has knocked his power and > internet down. (The server lives in DJ's basement). > Time for a mirror server on a different continent? I got used to rely on the presence of gedasymbols.org. I use it as a hinge to distribute my geda lib

Re: gEDA-user: "revert" vs "reload"

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter Clifton wrote: > Picking GIMP and gedit as examples of popular, well written > applications, they both use "Revert". However, gimp is unlikely to be used like we do with *.sch and *.pcb files. That is, use third party tools to manipulate them and reload the result to the GUI. gedit sol

Re: gEDA-user: essential library -- please comment.

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > First, I'll say that I am an advocate of lightweight symbols, and I > want to draw my schematic once, not having to delete and re-add > symbols when I decide to change a resistor from 0805 to 0603 > footprint; Hmm, heavy symbols don't force you to do that. Footprint attri

Re: gEDA-user: gschem: Modifier keys for moving?

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > Are you running an old version of GTK? My distro is debian/testing, aka squeeze. The libgtk2 packages are mostly version 2.24.4-3 . Is this "old"? ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search

Re: gEDA-user: path variable to $HOME/.gEDA

2011-08-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Vladimir Zhbanov wrote: > I just use: > (load "print-colormap-mycolors") > in local gschemrc file, where 'print-colormap-mycolors' is the name > of a file which lives in the same directory as the gschemrc. I > suspect it will work in other environments, too. Oh, this is a delightfully simple solu

Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down?

2011-08-30 Thread John Doty
On Aug 29, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Seems like I can't ping to gedasymbols.org since last night. Is the server > located in an area affected by the Irene storm? Yes. New Hampshire. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com

gEDA-user: gpcb-menu.res

2011-08-30 Thread Levente Kovacs
I noticed that recent PCB doesn't interpret my gpcb-menu.res file located in ~/.pcb. Instead it writes the following line to the standard output/error: @�: No such file or directory and the following line to the log window: Note: home directory is "/home/leva" Loading menus from Loading menus