gEDA-user: IPC 356 (was Re: How's my footprint?)

2007-06-02 Thread ldoolitt
Friends - On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:08:22AM +0200, L.J.H. Timmerman wrote: Or does a defacto standard format already exist ? Together with a netlist of connecting traces this would give enough information for testing conductity in an automated fashion. Does IPC 356 do what you want? A shop

Re: gEDA-user: trace length?

2007-05-15 Thread ldoolitt
Ryan - On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 09:22:51AM -0400, Ryan Seal wrote: Is there a method in PCB that allows one to measure the trace length so that signals can be phase matched if needed? If not, this would be a nice feature. No, but I would be interested to help out, either coding or testing.

Re: gEDA-user: icarus and dual-port rams

2007-05-01 Thread ldoolitt
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 08:01:48PM -0700, Matt Ettus wrote: I get the following errors when trying to compile a dual-ported ram in icarus. I'm sure my syntax must be bad somewhere, but I can't see where. I get different errors, which go away if I replace 2**ADDR_WIDTH with 32. - Larry

Re: gEDA-user: 4-bit_12-LED.png (PNG Image, 1024x768 pixels)

2007-04-10 Thread ldoolitt
Svenn - On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 05:54:19PM +0200, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: A wire jump tells the reader _explicitely_ Here are two wires crossing. [chop] When they _are_ automagically generated, like in Visio, I tend to use them as there are no questions like do those lines cross or are they

Re: gEDA-user: 4-bit_12-LED.png (PNG Image, 1024x768 pixels)

2007-04-10 Thread ldoolitt
Svenn - On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 06:32:31PM +0200, Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: A solder dot does _explicitely_ tell the reader that there is a connection. The lack of a solder dot does not explicitely tell you [chop] If you want to tell people that they should use wire jumps in their schematics,

Re: gEDA-user: simulation advice

2007-04-03 Thread ldoolitt
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 04:00:24PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: I have enough problems with my word processor changing case when I don't want it to, I certainly don't need my file system doing it too. It recently took me five minutes to sweet-talk openoffice into letting me type MHz correctly.

Re: gEDA-user: simulation advice

2007-04-03 Thread ldoolitt
David - On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 04:52:52PM -0400, David Kerber wrote: There's a much shallower option to add [MHz] to the dictionary, so it will even correct it next time... Openoffice didn't just show it with a red squiggly underline, it actively changed it as soon as I typed it. How could

Re: gEDA-user: Using polygons for creating a ground plane by hand

2007-03-25 Thread ldoolitt
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:50:57AM -0400, Jeremy Pedersen wrote: If it's the lesstif version, it's in the Tools menu. In the GTK version, you can use the buttons on the left. Ok. Is it the THRM button? If so, I can't get it to work. I click it, and it gives me a small black symbol

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GTK Layer controls

2007-03-16 Thread ldoolitt
Steve - On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 10:39:28AM -0700, Stephen Williams wrote: Are the Layers controls dialog box buttons connected to anything? I try to move one of the existing layers out of the group that it is in to a group of its own (I'm trying to create a ground plane) but it doesn't stick.

Re: gEDA-user: Nested for loop?

2007-03-10 Thread ldoolitt
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 10:11:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nested for loops don't seem to work in iverilog. it would seem that only the inner loop is updated. reg signed [7:0 ] x, y; for (x = -128; x 128; x = x + 1) Stop right there. x128 is _always_ true, since

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Nested for loop?

2007-03-10 Thread ldoolitt
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 10:37:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look more closely. What is the bit pattern for +128, in 8 bits? What is the bit patters for -128 in 8 bits? And for extra credit, what comes after 127 when counting in 8 bits (signed)? Thank you very much for the response.

Re: gEDA-user: generate within verilog

2007-03-07 Thread ldoolitt
SImon - On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 06:07:54AM +, ST de Feber wrote: Are you sure it is icarus or the construct itself ? Have you tried it with e.q modelsim ? Well, that's what I hoped someone else on the list could tell me. I don't have access to or experience with modelsim. Steve Williams

Re: gEDA-user: licensing (GPL or otherwise) for hardware?

2006-12-13 Thread ldoolitt
Andy - On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:15:12AM -0700, Andy Peters wrote: Just to clarify: if I use GPLed or BSD-licensed tools to develop hardware, as well as using GPLed symbols/footprints, am I obligated to open-source the hardware design (the schematic, the PCB layout)? If you never

Re: gEDA-user: licensing (GPL or otherwise) for hardware?

2006-12-13 Thread ldoolitt
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 06:28:34PM +, Peter TB Brett wrote: [a bunch of stuff pretty much aligned with what I wrote] This is why either: - IMHO footprints or symbols should be distributed under the GPL license I take it you mean should _not_ be. - Larry

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-07 Thread ldoolitt
Greg - On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 12:42:06PM +1100, Greg Cunningham wrote: What about shifting the bit-banging into a IRQ/timer-driven kernel module that sends smoke signals (not literally...) to user-land when the tx/rx sequence is complete? a bit like a software UART emulation... You still

Re: gEDA-user: furnace controller I/O port again

2006-11-06 Thread ldoolitt
Friends - On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 07:08:48PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: DJ, Are you writing code for the Dallas 1-wire protocol? Neat. Lots of bit banging. If anyone wants FPGA code for 1-Wire, I have some. You can either click through the stupid (but innocuous) licence agreement at

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread ldoolitt
Dave - On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 09:12:49PM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool,

Vendor FPGA tools (was Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?)

2006-10-30 Thread ldoolitt
Michael - On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 05:05:21AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for the Xilinx toolchain on my box. [chop] I've tried it, but got turned off in utter disgust when I saw that the thing is packaged in encrypted (!) ZIPs specifically to make it

Re: gEDA-user: series terminators

2006-09-21 Thread ldoolitt
DJ - On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:47:38AM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: I'm thinking I should design in some series resistors on the address and data lines for my RAM expansion board (30MHz, about 6 of 8 mil trace on DS FR4, 5v). 5 Volts? How quaint. You didn't give the thickness of the FR4

Re: gEDA-user: series terminators

2006-09-21 Thread ldoolitt
DJ - On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:18:46PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Double sided, 0.062. How quaint. ;-) The board I'm in the middle of bringing up is 6-layer, 0.045. I've probably linked to it before: http://recycle.lbl.gov/llrf4/ So the distance between a trace and its ground plane is an

Re: gEDA-user: Hidden rectangle in PCB causing headaches

2006-08-24 Thread ldoolitt
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:16:19AM +0100, Hugo Elias wrote: 3. Instead of saying in the log copper areas too close. Why not say something like via too close to track for example. Or better still, via too close to track on layer 3 - Larry ___

Re: gEDA-user: bypass caps

2006-08-21 Thread ldoolitt
DJ - On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:01:51PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Plus scattering some 10uF (also 0603 ceramic) around. Or this one: digikey PCC2233CT-ND 10uF 0805 ceramic, 10v, +20% -80%, only $0.20 each. Have you ever looked at the capacitance-vs-voltage curves for Y5V dielectric? Yuck.

Re: gEDA-user: Renumber in PCB/Was/Is List

2006-08-15 Thread ldoolitt
Patrick - On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 03:51:41PM -0400, Patrick Doyle wrote: The feature I'm most looking forward to coming out of this exercise is the ability to back annotate pin-swap information. Right now I'm just plugging my busses together between the processor and the memory (or interface

Re: gEDA-user: footprints -- novice`s problems

2006-07-27 Thread ldoolitt
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:39:46PM -0400, Stuart Brorson wrote: I'd do it with PostScript output straight from PCB, but I understand that PostScript's 1:1 doesn't really mean 1:1 exactly. Or am I wrong? There's always the chance your printer is badly calibrated. Except for that, it's fine.

Re: gEDA-user: line thickness not shown in gerbv

2006-07-25 Thread ldoolitt
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:52:59AM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: I have the same problem, using geda shipped with gentoo-linux (AMD64): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gerbv --version gerbv version 1.0.1 (C) Stefan Petersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Works fine for me -- same gerbv, also on AMD64. I tried

Re: gEDA-user: Specifications

2006-07-19 Thread ldoolitt
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 04:49:14PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: How large a pcb layout can PCB handle? About a quarter of a mile per side. Yes, I've done this, my house looks *really* small on that scale. Just for the fun of it, I just tried to set a huge board size. I got bumped back to 30

Re: gEDA-user: Specifications

2006-07-19 Thread ldoolitt
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 05:02:03PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Just for the fun of it, I just tried to set a huge board size. I got bumped back to 30 inches on a side. This is from the Preferences/Sizes GUI in CVS PCB-HID-gtk. Try the lesstif HID. It doesn't have any of the arbitrary

Re: gEDA-user: Specifications

2006-07-19 Thread ldoolitt
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 02:56:28PM -0700, Art Fore wrote: We only need about 18 inches X 18 inches and up to 24 layers. How about ground planes? Does it also handle split ground planes? Heretic! Ground planes are by definition not split! Fortunately for you, PCB is agnostic on the subject.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Graphical bugs

2006-07-14 Thread ldoolitt
Tamas - On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 11:31:24AM +0300, Tamas Varga wrote: It works for me, too. Thanks. 2. Same problem as previous when dragging the designator of a part placed on the solder size. I guess bug 2 is something similar to this. I didn't check it before, but bug 2 is not present on

gEDA-user: via in pad

2006-07-12 Thread ldoolitt
Friends - In PCB, I put down an exposed-paddle part (like the CY7C68013A-56LFXC), and then put vias in the central region as recommended for both thermal transfer and electrical connection. Just like the rest of the pad, those vias are clear of solder mask. According to the manufacturer's

Re: gEDA-user: via in pad

2006-07-12 Thread ldoolitt
DJ - On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 06:45:05PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone found (or put in) a method to [cover vias-in-pads with solder mask] in PCB? Thought - try using 12 thin pads instead of one big one, to build a grid with the 25 vias in the gaps in the