Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-13 Thread Karl Hammar
John Doty: You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the software. What people report is miserably unreliable as to what the *right thing* really is. ... Go and assist an observer for a few nights, see how

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread yamazakir2
So is there a solution to this? Anybody get the wire key to work on key press rather than on click? On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:50:31 +0200 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz k.kosciuszkiew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/11 Colin D

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
I didn't like magnetic net mode at first, because it kept guessing wrong. Since then I discovered that I was guessing wrong more than it was, so I kept it on. I think it just needs more tweaking to do the right thing more often. ___ geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread John Doty
On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:56 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I didn't like magnetic net mode at first, because it kept guessing wrong. Since then I discovered that I was guessing wrong more than it was, so I kept it on. I think it just needs more tweaking to do the right thing more often. But what the

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
But what the right thing is depends on personal style and institutional conventions. In this case, the right thing is to do what most people expect it to do. The rest, such as yourself, can either disable it and manually place nets or change the code to do what they want.

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread DJ Delorie
You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the software. Good thing I've done exactly that. Peter has too. What people report is miserably unreliable as to what the *right thing* really is. I'll keep

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-12 Thread John Doty
On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: In this case, the right thing is to do what most people expect it to do. You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the software. What people report is

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
yamazakir2 wrote: I had to redo my linux box so I installed a fresh copy of gschem from git and it seems like the method of wire placement has changed. When i press the wire hotkey, I have to click somewhere on the schematic before I can start drawing the wire. I noticed the change, too.

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/11 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de: yamazakir2 wrote: I had to redo my linux box so I installed a fresh copy of gschem from git and it seems like the method of wire placement has changed. When i press the wire hotkey, I have to click somewhere on the schematic before I can

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread John Doty
On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: Author: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk This allows magnetic net mode to be used for the start-point of a net as well as its end-point, whilst still being able to initiate net drawing with the n key. No, please, no.

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread yamazakir2
I agree, magnetic mode is an instant disable for me everytime I install gschem On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM, John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: Author: Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk    This allows magnetic net mode to be used for

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread John Hudak
Ditto John 2011/8/11 yamazakir2 [1]yamazak...@gmail.com I agree, magnetic mode is an instant disable for me everytime I install gschem On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM, John Doty [2]j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:34:58 -0700 yamazakir2 yamazak...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, magnetic mode is an instant disable for me everytime I install gschem Agreed... I like the idea of magnetic mode, especially when drawing nets when zoomed out pretty far--it can be hard to click exactly on the

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/8/11 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com: Another thing that might make working with nets easier is it took fewer clicks to move vertices.  Similar to how it is often irritating to have to (1) Click, (2) Pause, (3) Click+Drag a symbol to move it *, to move a line you have to click it, then

Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:50:31 +0200 Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz k.kosciuszkiew...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/11 Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com: Another thing that might make working with nets easier is it took fewer clicks to move vertices.  Similar to how it is often irritating to have to

gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-10 Thread yamazakir2
I had to redo my linux box so I installed a fresh copy of gschem from git and it seems like the method of wire placement has changed. When i press the wire hotkey, I have to click somewhere on the schematic before I can start drawing the wire. how do I change it so the wire placement starts at the