Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-10 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Ack. > gschem and pcb are about the only applications that make me press escape > during standard operation. Maybe it's because I'm a regular vi user, but I like the fact that a few taps on the escape key will bring an application to a known state

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-10 Thread Andy Peters
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Stefan Dröge wrote: > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:56:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> Ack. >> gschem and pcb are about the only applications that make me press >> escape >> during standard operation. > > No, I disagree to this. Only one exampl

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-10 Thread Stefan Dröge
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:56:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Ack. > gschem and pcb are about the only applications that make me press escape > during standard operation. No, I disagree to this. Only one example: A well known layout/schematic editor that begins with E and

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread DJ Delorie
With the palette metaphor, ESC in the schematic window would stop placing (return to "arrow mode") but leave the palette up. ESC in the palette window would close the palette. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: > So IMHO, choose one: > > * the window is a dialog, clicking on the list does nothing, > Ok/Apply/Cancel do the expected thing. > > * the window is a palette, clicking on the list lets you place > symbols, there's a way to close the window. > > Mixing the metaphors causes

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread Ales Hvezda
> This makes sense, but the 'apply' button seems redundant. As soon as you > select a component from the list, it should be available for placement, with > no button required. If you click on a different item in the component list, yes it is available for placement immediately. However, the co

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread DJ Delorie
> This makes sense, but the 'apply' button seems redundant. As soon > as you select a component from the list, it should be available for > placement, with no button required. > > > OK - place the selected component, remove dialog (permanently) > > > > Apply - place the selected component, lea

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread Andy Peters
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Matthew Wilkins wrote: >> OK - place the selected component, remove dialog (permanently) >> >> Apply - place the selected component, leave dialog up. >> >> Cancel - revert to previous mode, remove dialog (permanently) >> > This makes sense, but the 'apply' button seems

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread Matthew Wilkins
This makes sense, but the 'apply' button seems redundant. As soon as you select a component from the list, it should be available for placement, with no button required. > OK - place the selected component, remove dialog (permanently) > > Apply - place the selected component, leave dialog

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:56:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > The right actions should be: > > OK - place the selected component, remove dialog (permanently) > > Apply - place the selected component, leave dialog up. > > Cancel - revert to previous mode, remove dialog (permanently) Ack. gschem and

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-08 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi >> Maybe put "Place" button on the right side of the drop-down menu. GNOME >> HIG recommends only buttons that have to do with the dialog itself >> should be at the bottom row. > > Do you mean below the preview widget? I want to put an "Edit" but

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-07 Thread DJ Delorie
Is there any way to disable the "hide and place" method? From a usability standpoint it's just wrong, specifically having the escape key bring a dialog back from the dead. The right actions should be: OK - place the selected component, remove dialog (permanently) Apply - place the selected com

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Saturday 07 July 2007 11:02:43 Tomaz Solc wrote: > Hi > > >> Good point. Revised version ("Hide" icon from Bert): > >> > >> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ptbb2/gschem-place1.png > > > > Get rid of the Hide button! Move the Place button to the right the > > Close button (close is the hide function).

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-07 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi >> Good point. Revised version ("Hide" icon from Bert): >> >> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ptbb2/gschem-place1.png > > Get rid of the Hide button! Move the Place button to the right the > Close button (close is the hide function). Refresh to the lef

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 06 July 2007 21:01:10 Bas Gieltjes wrote: > Peter, > > > Good point. Revised version ("Hide" icon from Bert): > > > > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ptbb2/gschem-place1.png > > Get rid of the Hide button! Move the Place button to the right the > Close button (close is the hide function). No,

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-06 Thread Bas Gieltjes
Peter, > Good point. Revised version ("Hide" icon from Bert): > > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~ptbb2/gschem-place1.png Get rid of the Hide button! Move the Place button to the right the Close button (close is the hide function). Refresh to the left of the dialog (...?). Please don't make me pu

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-06 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Friday 06 July 2007 01:07:41 Ales Hvezda wrote: > [snip] > > >The reason for getting rid of the "Apply" button is that it currently > >doesn't actually do anything that hasn't already been done automatically. > > The only way I will support "getting rid of the apply button" is if > you can

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-05 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >The reason for getting rid of the "Apply" button is that it currently doesn= >'t=20 >actually do anything that hasn't already been done automatically. The only way I will support "getting rid of the apply button" is if you can leave the component selector window open and some how t

Re: gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-05 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 18:50:19 Peter TB Brett wrote: > I hope you find these useful. As I'm "eating my own dogfood" at the > moment, it's giving me some extra motivation for working on gEDA! The last > piece of user-visible work on the component dialog (for the time being) > will be renaming

gEDA-user: Component selector dialog

2007-07-04 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi folks, Two changes (in unstable) to the component selector dialog that I thought people should be aware of: "In Use" view -- The most obvious addition is the "In Use" view, which shows a list of the symbols currently being used in open schematics. I'd prefer it to only list th