Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-03 Thread Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz
2011/5/2 Rob Butts : >   So, how can I find those symbols?  That means that if I don't use the >   VDD and VSS nets I have to copy all symbols into my own symbol >   directory?  Wow, that is an inconvenience to say the least; especially >   where I will never use VDD or VSS.  There's no other way t

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
John Doty wrote: >> locate -i lm317 | grep .sym >> >> should give the same result, with less consume of resources. >> Indeed "| grep .sym" should be obsolete here. > > Close, but grep treats the "." as a wildcard, I'd locate the symbols like this: locate *lm317*.sym If there is no wildcard c

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:08 -0600, John Doty wrote: > On May 2, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: > > > >> > >> locate .sym | grep -i lm317 > >> > > > > locate -i lm317 | grep .sym > > > > should give the same result, with less

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread John Doty
On May 2, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Butts wrote: > What does | grep .sym do? In a Unix-derived command shell "a | b" runs sends the output of program "a" to program "b" as input. "grep" is a program that filters its input, yielding lines that match a pattern, in this case ".sym". Type "man grep"

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
What does | grep .sym do? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Stefan Salewski <[1]m...@ssalewski.de> wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: > > locate .sym | grep -i lm317 > locate -i lm317 | grep .sym should give the same result, with less consume

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread John Doty
On May 2, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: > >> >> locate .sym | grep -i lm317 >> > > locate -i lm317 | grep .sym > > should give the same result, with less consume of resources. > Indeed "| grep .sym" should be obsolete here. Cl

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:49 -0600, John Doty wrote: > > locate .sym | grep -i lm317 > locate -i lm317 | grep .sym should give the same result, with less consume of resources. Indeed "| grep .sym" should be obsolete here. ___ geda-user mailing li

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread John Doty
On May 2, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Rob Butts wrote: > So, how can I find those symbols? That means that if I don't use the > VDD and VSS nets I have to copy all symbols into my own symbol > directory? Wow, that is an inconvenience to say the least; especially > where I will never use VDD or VSS.

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
So, how can I find those symbols? That means that if I don't use the VDD and VSS nets I have to copy all symbols into my own symbol directory? Wow, that is an inconvenience to say the least; especially where I will never use VDD or VSS. There's no other way to save them in their o

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
The nets are in there but I suspect it's not letting save and exit the schematic because it won't let me save the symbols; which is probably why those nets are still in the netlist. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:19 PM, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: Save the pcb file and look

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread John Doty
On May 2, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Rob Butts wrote: > I just went into each symbol in my schematic and changed the VDD:xx to > Vcc:xx and VSS:xx to GND:xx. I then save the schematic and ran > gsch2pcb and when I bring up the netlist it still has the VSS and VDD > nets. It shouldn't because no

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Save the pcb file and look at it; near the end will be the netlist and you can search it for the mystery nets. Or look at the *.net file. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
I just went into each symbol in my schematic and changed the VDD:xx to Vcc:xx and VSS:xx to GND:xx. I then save the schematic and ran gsch2pcb and when I bring up the netlist it still has the VSS and VDD nets. It shouldn't because no symbol has those nets. I then went to quit the

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
The symbols for the logic came from the 4000 series logic library in gshem. I'm glad I realized this because the design wouldn't have worked. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:43 PM, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: If you have different symbols with different names for the same n

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread DJ Delorie
If you have different symbols with different names for the same net, you'll have to rename them to all have the same net, yes. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
Actually, to get the GND net to tie in with the VSS net do I have to go down into each symbol in gschem and replace net=VSS:8 with net=GND:8? Same with Vcc and VDD? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:21 PM, DJ Delorie <[1]d...@delorie.com> wrote: > 1. How do I set up the groups and layers i

Re: gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread DJ Delorie
> 1. How do I set up the groups and layers in preferences for 3 > signal planes and the one groub? In PCB there's no real difference between a signal plane and a power/gnd plane. Just set up any 4-layer board. > 2. Once I create the rectangle of the ground plane, how do I get > PCB to attach

gEDA-user: How to make a ground plane in PCB and attach all GND and VSS nets

2011-05-02 Thread Rob Butts
I'd like to make a 4-layer board with a ground plane that all the GND net and VSS net connect to. I've read through DJ's PCB tutorial but I'm not clear about a few things. 1. How do I set up the groups and layers in preferences for 3 signal planes and the one groub? 2. Once I c