Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-19 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 11:09:34 timecop wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Even this single sentence contains so many

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-17 Thread Rick Collins
I guess I didn't realize PCB was mainly for hobby use... WHAT??? Rick At 06:09 AM 11/16/2010, you wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Jan Martinek
On 11/15/2010 09:24 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Stephen Ecob wrote: Motivation Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: Are

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread timecop
With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Does PCB have Specctra DSN/SES export/import? Just use that (or implement if it doesn't) and then

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:09:34 +0900 timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Does PCB have Specctra

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Link
On 16/11/10 15:54, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 11:09:34 timecop wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter...

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Jan Martinek ho...@dp.fce.vutbr.cz wrote: On 11/15/2010 09:24 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de  wrote: Stephen Ecob wrote: Motivation Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Anthony Blake
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:09 AM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Does PCB have Specctra

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:09 PM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter... Does PCB have Specctra

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-16 Thread Anthony Blake
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:09 PM, timecop time...@gmail.com wrote: With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets (or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephen Ecob wrote: Motivation Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: Are you talking about the default auto router. Or is this about the shiny, new toporouter? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak

Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-15 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Stephen Ecob wrote: Motivation Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: Are you talking about the default auto router.

gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-12 Thread Stephen Ecob
Hello all, I've made a branch of PCB. The intent of the branch is to aid in the debugging and tuning of PCB's autorouter and PCB's trace optimiser. Motivation Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult: 1 The