Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-02 Thread kai-martin knaak
Christian Riggenbach wrote: > There is a trick to connect to some other copper not in the same net: > > - enter the "line" mode > - hover over the copper to connect > - press 'f' (to mark it as "found") > - start the line from the not marked copper. >Both should now be marked as "found" and

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-02 Thread Stephan Boettcher
John Griessen writes: > I wish we were attaching netnames to pcb trace segments as we create > them and using that to do auto enforce Please don't! > Guess I need to try out that Auto enforce DRC feature -- I've never > purposely used it yet Same here. If you do not use it, why do you care a

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-02 Thread John Griessen
On 01/01/2011 12:20 PM, Rick Collins wrote: If copper is left behind because of manufacturing, it doesn't really impact the layout process or connectivity checking. Sure does if it is DRC rule close -- it could be short in etching process results. On 01/01/2011 01:58 PM, Christian Riggenba

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Christian Riggenbach
On Saturday 01 January 2011 19.26:35 kai-martin knaak wrote: > If no-net copper is connected to a net, it automatically becomes > some-net copper. The current issue with pcb: You need to toggle > enforce_DRC to do the connection. This is a hassle that should > be removed from the GUI. There is a t

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 13:20 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > At 01:05 PM 1/1/2011, you wrote: > >On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > > At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote: > > > >On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is no-net copper u

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Rick Collins wrote: > It just struck me as odd that there would be support in a > layout tool for no-net copper that might be connected to nets. If no-net copper is connected to a net, it automatically becomes some-net copper. The current issue with pcb: You need to toggle enforce_DRC to do the

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins
At 01:05 PM 1/1/2011, you wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote: > >On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > Why is no-net copper useful? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > >-- use copper like silk, i.e for text, ma

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote: > >On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > > > > > > > Why is no-net copper useful? > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > >-- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks... > >-- some like to have copp

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins
At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > Why is no-net copper useful? > > Rick > -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks... -- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons -- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milli

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Rick Collins wrote: > Maybe someone could explain to me why there would be copper on a PCB > that is not part of a net? Possible reasons: * the pcb will be done by milling. (as opposed to etching) * a logo in copper contains portions not connected to anything * text in copper contains lots of i

Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote: > > Why is no-net copper useful? > > Rick > -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks... -- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons -- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to save chemi

gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins
At 06:10 AM 12/31/2010, you wrote: > This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect > to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles > connectivity. If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a short between nets. Consider a large item like you mi