Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-30 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 03:57:18PM -0400, Ormund Williams wrote: Hi All I'm designing a circuit and needed a few gates, 8 3-input AND, 4 2-input XOR, 10 inputs and 8 outputs, it seemed to me that this would fit perfectly into a 16v8. Now the last time I used SPLDs was '98 and it annoyed me

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-30 Thread Ormund Williams
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 18:29 +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: It also depends on your needs: if you think that you are going to produce a large series, avoid them. For a one time run of a few units, why not if you find them through www.findchips.com or similar. Do you use SPLD? What do you

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-28 Thread DJ Delorie
What article? DJ in CC again - this month's Circuit Cellar includes a photo of the JTAG adapter as part of my pod's module collection, next month's goes into the construction and use of it. tj DJ Delorie wrote: I don't know, I built my own JTAG programmer (see the article).

gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread Ormund Williams
Hi All I'm designing a circuit and needed a few gates, 8 3-input AND, 4 2-input XOR, 10 inputs and 8 outputs, it seemed to me that this would fit perfectly into a 16v8. Now the last time I used SPLDs was '98 and it annoyed me back then that no open-source tools existed to support development now

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
Am I correct in thinking that it would be unwise to use these in new designs? Do you use SPLD? What do you use to program them? How about the ISP versions? Look at the XC9536XL from xilinx. It's $1, runs on 3.3v, and ISP-able or you can program them externally (they're flash based).

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
DJ - On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:29:12PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: [the XC9536XL is] huge compared to a 16v8, though, but once you have the bitstream files (xilinx runs with Makefiles on Linux) you can program them with open source or home-brew toools. Funny, I was just trying to hack my

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
Funny, I was just trying to hack my Xilinx-on-Linux Makefiles (actually the script called by the Makefile) that work with FPGAs, to make it target an XC9536XL. I've posted my xil_syn script here before, has anyone else put something together like it for an XC95xx? Here's my Makefile for

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread Ormund Williams
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 16:29 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Am I correct in thinking that it would be unwise to use these in new designs? Do you use SPLD? What do you use to program them? How about the ISP versions? Look at the XC9536XL from xilinx. It's $1, runs on 3.3v, and ISP-able or you

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
actually the space I have is 8x17mm gak! Yeah, you'd need a PAL to fit it in there. An R8C would fit, but wouldn't do the job. I can see the status reports: I had an extra 8x14mm so I added another CPU. ___ geda-user mailing list

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread Dylan Smith
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, DJ Delorie wrote: Thanks! Next month's article covers programming the XC9572XL from Linux ;-) Do you know if they fixed the parallel programming in Xilinx ISE with the most recent version? The last version required a *kernel* driver for parallel port programming (!!)

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread DJ Delorie
I don't know, I built my own JTAG programmer (see the article). ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: PALs GALs and SPLDs going the way of the Dodo?

2009-03-27 Thread tj
What article? tj DJ Delorie wrote: I don't know, I built my own JTAG programmer (see the article). ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user