Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-10 Thread Rick Collins
At 09:02 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: I only wish I could, but gerbv crashes on my machine. Don't know if this will be getting fixed any time soon. Rick so just for kicks, I tried to debug this again on a vista pc. Downloaded sources from cvs and there was no crash. So

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Rick Collins wrote: At 02:19 PM 5/7/2008, you wrote: Hi -- The output from FreePCB includes comments to indicate all of the details of the drill tools. Sometimes reloading this info into GC Preview confuses it and it reads the comments as drills. This is a totally OT question, but I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-08 Thread Rick Collins
At 09:02 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: I only wish I could, but gerbv crashes on my machine. Don't know if this will be getting fixed any time soon. Rick so just for kicks, I tried to debug this again on a vista pc. Downloaded sources from cvs and there was no crash. So I

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Eric Brombaugh wrote: DJ Delorie wrote: Which version of PCB? Mine has TZ, not LZ, there. And I recently submitted a job to batchpcb but didn't get any comments back. I'm running the 20080202 version built from source on Fedora 6. Mine also has the following INCH on line 2: INCH,TZ

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread DJ Delorie
I made the change, but the spec they reference merely says that TZ means trailing zeros are unneccessary. It does not mean they must be omitted, just that if there are less than six digits, the program assumes that the trailing zeros are the missing ones. Since we provide all six digits all the

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Rick Collins
At 12:13 PM 5/7/2008, you wrote: I made the change, but the spec they reference merely says that TZ means trailing zeros are unneccessary. It does not mean they must be omitted, just that if there are less than six digits, the program assumes that the trailing zeros are the missing ones. Since

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Stuart Brorson
Hi -- The output from FreePCB includes comments to indicate all of the details of the drill tools. Sometimes reloading this info into GC Preview confuses it and it reads the comments as drills. This is a totally OT question, but I wonder: Have you tried looking at the output of your FreePCB

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Rick Collins
At 02:19 PM 5/7/2008, you wrote: Hi -- The output from FreePCB includes comments to indicate all of the details of the drill tools. Sometimes reloading this info into GC Preview confuses it and it reads the comments as drills. This is a totally OT question, but I wonder: Have you tried

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Stuart Brorson
The output from FreePCB includes comments to indicate all of the details of the drill tools. Sometimes reloading this info into GC Preview confuses it and it reads the comments as drills. This is a totally OT question, but I wonder: Have you tried looking at the output of your FreePCB

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Dan McMahill
Stuart Brorson wrote: The output from FreePCB includes comments to indicate all of the details of the drill tools. Sometimes reloading this info into GC Preview confuses it and it reads the comments as drills. This is a totally OT question, but I wonder: Have you tried looking at the output

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Stephen Williams
More often then not, when I had problems like that with Icarus Verilog it turned out to be different handling (by the O/S) of dynamically allocated memory. One or the other (I forget which) will leave random data in malloc'ed memory. If malloc'ed data is not initialized, this can lead to code

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-07 Thread Rick Collins
This conversation has already happened. To recap... Windows 2000 SP4 on Athlon 1600+ (yes, a 5 year old machine) latest version of gerbv, 2.0.1 Opening gerber files makes it crash It craps out to Windows with a memory protection error (null pointer) --- Gerber

gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Hi, I've submitted a design to BatchPCB for fab and it appears to have passed their automated DRCs just fine. I did get an email back from their admin guy though with the following comment on the drill file: only thing is the LZ after INCH - leading zeros are not actually omitted. We can fix

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Which version of PCB? Mine has TZ, not LZ, there. And I recently submitted a job to batchpcb but didn't get any comments back. Anyway, if you want, just have him email me directly and I'll make pcb do the right thing. We've done stuff like this for fab shops before, and it helps to know what

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread Eric Brombaugh
DJ Delorie wrote: Which version of PCB? Mine has TZ, not LZ, there. And I recently submitted a job to batchpcb but didn't get any comments back. I'm running the 20080202 version built from source on Fedora 6. Mine also has the following INCH on line 2: INCH,TZ Anyway, if you want, just

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread Dave N6NZ
I've sent quite a few boards through BatchPCB with good success. The job setup web page asks for drill format when you submit the file to the DRC bot. I'm not sure what I always say because I can never remember, so I look at the drill file every time -- it seems I get it right, mostly, too :)

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread DJ Delorie
Looks like Inch, 1.3, trailing zero is the default output from PCB?? We use a %.3f printf format. So as long as your holes are less than 10 inches, yeah, it's 1.3TZ. They did say they were getting rid of that question, though, as they can usually figure it out from the drill file itself.

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread Eric Brombaugh
Dave N6NZ wrote: Looks like Inch, 1.3, trailing zero is the default output from PCB?? snip P.S. One note on BatchPCB -- the web site says ..communicate the board outline somehow... -- in my experience it should really say ... put your board outline on top silk, because we don't look at

Re: gEDA-user: PCB drill file question

2008-05-06 Thread DJ Delorie
BTW - for those who have sent designs through BatchPCB: after clearing DRC they sent me .PNG images of the front back copper, as well as the front silk, mask and copper superimposed. If you've gotten these images too, did yours have the drill holes in the pads vias? Mine didn't... They