Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-21 Thread Stefan Dröge
John Griessen wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: > >> I've thought of doing this with the 15 mil single sided blanks - etch >> each layer separately, then glue them together. The problem is still >> how to make efficient vias, > > Yep. putting via wires is tedious and not pretty and mini rivets >

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: The best part was, you get through-vias for free because of the way you do the drilling. Free always sounds good... still messier than ink jetting around And the ink jetting has just been proven out some. I bet, with just a trace to trace connection overlap area, using

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread DJ Delorie
The best system I've seen described used a mill to cut slots for the traces, then you squeegie in some solderable polymer and bake it. The best part was, you get through-vias for free because of the way you do the drilling. I couldn't find anyone actually making the machines though. __

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread John Griessen
DJ Delorie wrote: I've thought of doing this with the 15 mil single sided blanks - etch each layer separately, then glue them together. The problem is still how to make efficient vias, Yep. putting via wires is tedious and not pretty and mini rivets would be sooo large. I think NC dri

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread DJ Delorie
> Has anyone done tests about printing onto metal foil covered paper? > I wonder... the signage and plaque making businesses use dye > sublimation for foil overprinting to get zappy metallic reflective > colors... The Homebrew folks have. It just doesn't stick well enough, between the poor drum

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 13:04 -0500, John Griessen wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > I thought about this, and decided that it would work. The charge > > patterning is on the toner drum, and the process uses a HV charge > > underneath the paper to attract the toner off it. You could energise the >

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread John Griessen
Peter Clifton wrote: I thought about this, and decided that it would work. The charge patterning is on the toner drum, and the process uses a HV charge underneath the paper to attract the toner off it. You could energise the FR4, perhaps the bottom of it. Hmmm the way the metal would have

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 09:58 -0500, John Griessen wrote: > Tomaz Solc wrote: > > > I'm more interested in how you would mount any kind of device on such a > > circuit. You probably can't solder anything to paper or plastic film. > > The silver is no problem to solder to. There are now just being

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread John Griessen
Tomaz Solc wrote: I'm more interested in how you would mount any kind of device on such a circuit. You probably can't solder anything to paper or plastic film. The silver is no problem to solder to. There are now just being offered some R&D inkjet printers with very accurate positioners and a

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread Stefan Dröge
Tomaz Solc wrote: > Hi > >> Hmmm I guess we will be forced to go 100% surface mount, unless they >> can figure out a way to print holes. > > I'm more interested in how you would mount any kind of device on such a > circuit. You probably can't solder anything to paper or plastic film. > > Bes

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-20 Thread Tomaz Solc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > Hmmm I guess we will be forced to go 100% surface mount, unless they > can figure out a way to print holes. I'm more interested in how you would mount any kind of device on such a circuit. You probably can't solder anything to paper or plast

Re: gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-19 Thread Dave N6NZ
C P Tarun wrote: When will gEDA start providing support for "printed" circuits? :) Tarun Modified ink printer churns out electronic circuits * 18:24 18 April 2007 * NewScientist.com news service * Tom Simonite A desktop printer loaded with a silver salt solution and vitamin C has

gEDA-user: PCBs using desktop inkjet

2007-04-19 Thread C P Tarun
When will gEDA start providing support for "printed" circuits? :) Tarun Modified ink printer churns out electronic circuits * 18:24 18 April 2007 * NewScientist.com news service * Tom Simonite A desktop printer loaded with a silver salt solution and vitamin C has been used to produc