Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:58:02PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool, and

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 12:53:13AM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:58:57PM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: Steve Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure why not here is a link to an individual who built a replica of the Apollo Guidance System, using discrete components and wire wrap, in his basement. Of course a discrete logic

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread John Griessen
Dave McGuire wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool, and highly educational in a number of areas. The

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Ohh my ohh my... well you do know that, from the William Gibson/Bruce Sterling novel The Difference Engine, someone who writes code for a mechanical babage computational engine is known as a clacker? Yup, I've got that book. ___ geda-user mailing

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread DJ Delorie
I am looking forward to the day when the receiver will be finished and I can place a fully transistorized and 19 transistors retro labels on them :) transistor radio :-) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:05 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: Well my tentative plan is to duplicate the functionality of the individual boards, but not to scale. Many DEC machines of that era were built with Flip Chip boards, 2.5x5 PCBs with card-edge connectors that typically implement relatively little

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:16 AM, John Griessen wrote: The education could lead to real world washing machine controller stuff too -- by switching to printed organic transistors...where you can go straight to power handling with the same printed material. Which one is the MSP430 series from? The

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-02 Thread John Griessen
Dave McGuire wrote: Are printed organic transistors ready for prime-time? Not quite. Or at least, the processes that work well are kept secret, applied to small displays -- not necessarily easy in a garage shop. But for some things where short lifetime is OK, there are recipes used

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 11:45:08PM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: Kai-Martin Knaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why varicad is the only non open source software on my box. ^^^ So you don't work with FPGAs then, huh? The

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 05:05:21AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for the Xilinx toolchain on my box. At least once you are registered, get the free-as-in-beer download, Xilinx XST works natively and without monkeying with license keys. I've tried it, but

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Dan McMahill
Karel Kulhavy wrote: The free download version of Quartus-II I found seems to need WINE and (no cost) keys. Can you confirm that, or did I do something wrong? I'm not using that version, I'm using the native Linux version. You can I have OpenBSD. Is there also a native OpenBSD version? :)

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't need high complexity circuits, then you can implement things from medium-scale integrated circuits instead of FPGA, and then you don't have to use proprietary software :) Care to implement a Nokia SDSL framer and an ATM TC-PHY in MSI?

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Meier
Sure why not here is a link to an individual who built a replica of the Apollo Guidance System, using discrete components and wire wrap, in his basement. http://www.spaceref.com/exploration/apollo/acgreplica/ Steve M. On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 17:49 +, Michael Sokolov wrote: Karel Kulhavy

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Steve Meier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure why not here is a link to an individual who built a replica of the Apollo Guidance System, using discrete components and wire wrap, in his basement. Of course a discrete logic wire-wrapped computer is cool. There is no question on that one. But

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Meier
Michael, I am in the same boat as you we also use altera software because our designs here at MRA Tek are so demanding and complex and need to be in such a small physical volumn that even if descrete components could handle the computational speed that we need (which they don't) we couldn't

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Steve Meier wrote: But as you said Of course a discrete logic wire-wrapped computer is cool or a bit nutty but more power to the builder. It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread DJ Delorie
It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool, and highly educational in a number of areas. Are you going to be true to

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread ldoolitt
Dave - On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 09:12:49PM -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: It all depends on what you're into. I've been discussing a project with a friend that would involve building what amounts to a copy of the PDP-8 (Straight-8, no suffix) with individual transistors. It's fun, cool,

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-11-01 Thread Dave McGuire
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once personally diagnosed and replaced a blown diode in a PDP-5. When it blew, it made an accumulator bit stick on, and the machine became unusable. That event caused the machine to be retired from the Caltech Cyclotron. My friends and I

gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-10-30 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:27:59 -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote: Off topic I know, but I need a pointer. Is there a decent FOSS 3D CAD program that will create STL files for simple parts? No. Even commercial 3D CAD programs that run on linux are few. I know just one. That's why varicad is the only non

Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?

2006-10-30 Thread Michael Sokolov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for the Xilinx toolchain on my box. At least once you are registered, get the free-as-in-beer download, Xilinx XST works natively and without monkeying with license keys. I've tried it, but got turned off in utter disgust when I saw that the thing is packaged

Vendor FPGA tools (was Re: gEDA-user: Re: Pointer to 3d CAD?)

2006-10-30 Thread ldoolitt
Michael - On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 05:05:21AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for the Xilinx toolchain on my box. [chop] I've tried it, but got turned off in utter disgust when I saw that the thing is packaged in encrypted (!) ZIPs specifically to make it