Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> What I really want for solder jumpers is the ability to (un)mask them > for solder mask, (un)mask paste mask, and metal short options. This is usually done at the gerber level, not at the pcb level. If you're making these changes in pcb, just add or remove the trace :-) > I'd also like a me

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-04 Thread Steven Michalske
What I really want for solder jumpers is the ability to (un)mask them for solder mask, (un)mask paste mask, and metal short options. that is to disable them from production and we know that they are going to be open, put solder mask over them to prevent accidental shorting. to leave open hav

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-04 Thread Eric Winsor
DJ Delorie wrote: > Had another idea for a solder jumper: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > We used bisected circle

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread Eric Brombaugh
DJ Delorie wrote: > I added something like that to my page... > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html > > That one *can* be done as an element :-) Those look like they might also make good switch contacts for elastomeric buttons / keypads. Eric _

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread John Luciani
I did a couple of jumpers that I believe are similar in size to the ones I had seen on an Arduino board. There is jumper and a two-way jumper. Pic attached. (* jcl *) -- You can't create open hardware with closed EDA tools. [1]http://www.luciani.org References 1. http://w

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 02:44:48PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > I added something like that to my page... > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html > > That one *can* be done as an element :-) Your solder jumpers are starting to look like PCB inductors: http://lea.hamradio.si/~

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> I saw something very similar to this on a LCD panel, except it was > made of straight line, kind of in the shape of a fork - one side was a > "Y" and the other a straight line into the middle of the "Y" (and the > "Y" had lines at right angles. I added something like that to my page... http://

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread Duncan Drennan
I saw something very similar to this on a LCD panel, except it was made of straight line, kind of in the shape of a fork - one side was a "Y" and the other a straight line into the middle of the "Y" (and the "Y" had lines at right angles. | -| --- |

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> Check with your CM about how they handle non-component solder. A > "part" like this might require a special setup operation on the > Pick&Place machine, or worse require hand assembly. I was thinking in terms of us DIY board makers. ___ geda-user m

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread DJ Delorie
> Why are copper arcs forbidden in elements? Does this mean I can't > have a footprint that looks like this? It's more like they're unsupported, not "forbidden". Nobody's added them yet. Plus you get interesting questions like "where to rat lines connect on them?" ___

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread Bob Paddock
> Had another idea for a solder jumper: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html Check with your CM about how they handle non-component solder. A "part" like this might require a special setup operation on the Pick&Place machine, or worse require hand assembly. You are generally better

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread David Griffith
On Sun, 3 May 2009, DJ Delorie wrote: > Had another idea for a solder jumper: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html Looks reliable. Why are copper arcs forbidden in elements? Does this mean I can't have a footprint that looks like this? -- David Griffith dgri...@cs.csubak.edu A:

Re: gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-03 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Sunday 03 May 2009 07:13:13 DJ Delorie wrote: > Had another idea for a solder jumper: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html I like this and hearby request that you update the fileformat to support it as an element. :P Peter -- Peter Brett Cambridge Un

gEDA-user: solder jumpers

2009-05-02 Thread DJ Delorie
Had another idea for a solder jumper: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/solderjumpers.html ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Dan McMahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Luciani wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> jcl, > >> > >> I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball > >> them, or stuff them

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> you know, solder bridgable gap footprints are a candidate for a > keepout layer to keep you from putting a trace through the gap. Of > course you may just want to make the gap narrow enough that you'd > have drc violations by putting a trace there. I think that should wait until we have more r

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Dan McMahill
John Luciani wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> jcl, >> >> I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball >> them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. >> >> Could we make a copper shorted version as well? >> It allows for

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Steven Michalske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jcl, > > I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball > them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. > > Could we make a copper shorted version as well? > It allows for the reverse of the idea, by

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:38 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The footprint in the lower right looks quite good. > > > > Thanks. > > You need a .pcb, of figured it out already? I am all set. Thanks for your help (* jcl *) -- http://www.luciani.org _

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> The footprint in the lower right looks quite good. > > Thanks. You need a .pcb, of figured it out already? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can combine four rounded pads and a square one to form each half > of these: > > http://www.delorie.com/pcb/jumpers.png > > (the tiny one is one rounded + one square, for reference) The footprint in the lower right

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Steven Michalske
jcl, I have made this the size of 0603 parts so that i can solder ball them, or stuff them with an 0603 resistor. Could we make a copper shorted version as well? It allows for the reverse of the idea, by default it is connects two nets that an exacto can cut out. Hardkrash On Mar 25, 2008,

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
You can combine four rounded pads and a square one to form each half of these: http://www.delorie.com/pcb/jumpers.png (the tiny one is one rounded + one square, for reference) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cg

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:07:19 -0400, John Luciani wrote: > > > I am looking for the dimensions of the pads and gaps or some > > recommendations. > > You might look at JMP_SMD.fp in my section of gedasymbols. These jump

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:07:19 -0400, John Luciani wrote: > I am looking for the dimensions of the pads and gaps or some > recommendations. You might look at JMP_SMD.fp in my section of gedasymbols. These jumpers have been proven to work with my last couple of boards. The gap is narrow enough to

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> I am hoping to build two footprints. I was thinking of a range of gap sizes, so you could see how well they bridge. > Is there a secret PCB file format change that would permit > the creation of semi-circular pads and that also implements > that PCB datum request? No, no changes like that sin

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM, DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I can't find out some actual dimensions that people have used or > > seen then it's down to the cellar ;-) > > If you want a test board, I can probably etch one tomorrow and mail it > to you. Just send me a .pcb fi

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread DJ Delorie
> If I can't find out some actual dimensions that people have used or > seen then it's down to the cellar ;-) If you want a test board, I can probably etch one tomorrow and mail it to you. Just send me a .pcb file. Or a postscript file, if you want to try semicircles also. ___

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:40PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > boards are built by novices I wanted to find the size jumper that they > typically use. The round pad with split "affords" bridging. Two square pads don't quite have the same effect. Too bad PCB can't make the semi-circular pads! h

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Ben Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:07:19PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > > gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each > > end with a rectangular pad in between. > > I'm sure you have a reason for using s

Re: gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread Ben Jackson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:07:19PM -0400, John Luciani wrote: > gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each > end with a rectangular pad in between. I'm sure you have a reason for using special pads, but I'd just use some SMT resistor footprint. I've made 3-pad strappin

gEDA-user: Solder Jumpers

2008-03-25 Thread John Luciani
In Eagle there are a couple of solder-jumper footprints. To jumper between pads you create a solder bridge. The two pad jumper looks like two half circles with a gap in between. The three pad jumper consists of a half circle on each end with a rectangular pad in between. I am looking for the dimen