Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-27 Thread Steven Michalske
On Dec 26, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > Stefan Salewski writes: > >> OK, shame on me for missing that option. But I do not think that this >> really proves that a gschem rewrite is obsolete. > > I may believe that writing a second gschem editor is worse use of your > tim

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-27 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I do not think that this > really proves that a gschem rewrite is obsolete. There are so many > similar problems, wishful improvements. All big task currently, no one > really does it. What many pcb users really seem to want is a HID for sche

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-27 Thread Andrzej
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > Indeed I remembered something about a Python gschem clone, I mentioned > that in my initial post: > > http://archives.seul.org/geda/user/Oct-2010/msg00122.html Ouch! Sorry about that. I hardly check this mailing list nowadays. > I was n

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-27 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 19:49 +0900, Andrzej wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Andrzej wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > >> Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, > >> compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-27 Thread Andrzej
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Andrzej wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, >> compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, >> using GTK/Cairo. > > I while ago I started my

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Andrzej
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, > compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, > using GTK/Cairo. I while ago I started my own schematics editor - pschem: http://code.google.com/p

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski writes: > OK, shame on me for missing that option. But I do not think that this > really proves that a gschem rewrite is obsolete. I may believe that writing a second gschem editor is worse use of your time than improving the existing one, but it is not up to me to judge how you

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:33 -0500, John Doty wrote: > On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > > > I have to modify the netlister and gschem -- gschem tries to be smart > > and makes one single net when multiple net segments are in a straight > > line. > > Doesn't putting: > > (net-

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
On Dec 26, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I have to modify the netlister and gschem -- gschem tries to be smart > and makes one single net when multiple net segments are in a straight > line. Doesn't putting: (net-consolidate "disabled") in gschemrc fix that for your purpose in gsc

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
>> I did not recall what I'd installed, and it looks like no specific >> profile is set, which might be the problem in itself: >> > > Interesting. > > For me no-multilib is marked with the star Yes, the selected profile is indicated with star. > and I do not really like to change it. Me either,

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:01 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > > > Is your box also AMD64 no multilib profile? > > I did not recall what I'd installed, and it looks like no specific > profile is set, which might be the problem in itself: > Interesting. For me no-multilib is marked with the star, an

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 18:57 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote: > Stefan Salewski writes: > > > > I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign > > attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to > > support manually- and auto-routing with already specified pa

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:09 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > >> >> /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb: >> 16: GTK+ 2.8.0 or later and cairo support are required. (RuntimeError) >> > > Yes, that is the same what I got befo

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:38 -0500, John Doty wrote: > Stephan, this project is interesting. I'll try it on Ubuntu when I get > back to Noqsi. I think I'll pass on trying it on a Mac for now (all I > have here in Cambridge). > > I am puzzled, however, by your motivation: I wrote something about i

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Stefan Salewski writes: > I think one reason for start writing it was my desire to assign > attributes/classes to subnets, to transfer this information to PCB to > support manually- and auto-routing with already specified parameters for > traces. Why do you need a gschem replacement for that?

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:09 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb: > 16: GTK+ 2.8.0 or later and cairo support are required. (RuntimeError) > Yes, that is the same what I got before fixing it by manually installing rb_cairo.h. The Gentoo people

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread John Doty
Stephan, this project is interesting. I'll try it on Ubuntu when I get back to Noqsi. I think I'll pass on trying it on a Mac for now (all I have here in Cambridge). I am puzzled, however, by your motivation: On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > I think one reason for start w

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
> Or try > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb > > Should fail too, with the same message as my script. > All related to the missing rb_cairo.h -- some Gentoo people seem to > think that it is obsolete, but it seems to be needed on some boxes. /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 17:47 +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Please try to execute > > /usr/share/doc/ruby-pango-0.19.4/sample/pango_cairo.rb > > > If that fails, please add some comment to above bug reports. > Or try /usr/share/doc/ruby-gtk2-0.19.4/sample/misc/cairo-pong.rb Should fail too,

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 11:30 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: >> > I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) >> > from the top of the  above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped >> > with distributions like U

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 11:30 -0500, Bob Paddock wrote: > > I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) > > from the top of the above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped > > with distributions like Ubuntu? If not, then it may be easier for people > > to install

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bob Paddock
> I would be interested how many people can run the demo script (peted.rb) > from the top of the  above page. Are the needed rcairo bindings shipped > with distributions like Ubuntu? If not, then it may be easier for people > to install the whole gEDA package than to get such a short ruby script >

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi Stefan, > -Original Message- > From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org > [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Salewski > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:49 PM > To: gEDA user mailing list > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schemat

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 09:28 -0500, George M. Gallant, Jr. wrote: > Ran without any user intervention on Fedora 13. Installed Ruby > some time ago without knowing if I would ever use it. > Fine! > Depending on the window sizing, either the top/bottom horizontal > line heights or the left/right ver

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread George M. Gallant, Jr.
Ran without any user intervention on Fedora 13. Installed Ruby some time ago without knowing if I would ever use it. Depending on the window sizing, either the top/bottom horizontal line heights or the left/right vertical line widths do not display fully. George On 12/26/2010 08:48 AM, Stefan S

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-12-26 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 19:31 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, > compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, > using GTK/Cairo. > No, the project is not death... I just managed to draw to a GTK drawing area,

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-10-08 Thread John Griessen
On 10/07/2010 09:36 PM, Steve Morss wrote: Go for it! I think your idea is really neat. I'm a hard core Ruby programmer and have had similar experiences - you can say a lot in a little bit of space, the code is very readable, and coding goes quickly. On 10/7/10 1:31 PM, Stefan Salewski wro

Re: gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-10-07 Thread Steve Morss
Go for it! I think your idea is really neat. I'm a hard core Ruby programmer and have had similar experiences - you can say a lot in a little bit of space, the code is very readable, and coding goes quickly. I can think of some other useful applications for a Ruby version of gschem. A smal

gEDA-user: Working on a tiny schematics editor

2010-10-07 Thread Stefan Salewski
Some weeks ago I started working on a very basic schematics editor, compatible with current gschem file format. I am writing it in Ruby, using GTK/Cairo. You may ask: Do we really need one? No, gschem works fine. You may say: That is wasting of your time. Maybe... You may say: You should bette