Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-23 Thread gene glick
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Geoff Swan wrote: I came across this ( http://www.tentlabs.com/InfoSupport/page35/files/Supply_decoupling.pdf) some time ago. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts as there are clearly many differing views on correct grounding and supply decoupling.

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 02:13 -0400, gene glick wrote: I'm throwing this out to the list for opinions. . . This design has mixed analog and digital circuits. I do not know much about that, but I have seen a few discussions about that topic in Internet. My conclusion: General discussion makes

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread myjunk stuff
Often stupid partitioning of GND in digital and analog can generate much trouble, so one single low impedance ground plane can be a simple and not too bad solution. Yep. But a single plane *may* lead to stray currents flowing near sensitive analog stuff, like ADC and DAC. I don't want to

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread DJ Delorie
One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots around the sensitive analog parts, like big C shaped moats, squares open on one side. You retain the big ground plane conductivity, but you prevent stray currents from using your analog area as a short-cut. Each analog chunk can

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Eric Brombaugh
On 07/22/2010 09:37 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots around the sensitive analog parts, like big C shaped moats, squares open on one side. You retain the big ground plane conductivity, but you prevent stray currents from using your analog

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Steven Michalske
On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Eric Brombaugh ebrombau...@cox.net wrote: On 07/22/2010 09:37 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots around the sensitive analog parts, like big C shaped moats, squares open on one side. You retain the big

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 09:57:11AM -0700, Steven Michalske wrote: On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Eric Brombaugh ebrombau...@cox.net wrote: On 07/22/2010 09:37 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots around the sensitive analog parts, like

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Eric Brombaugh
On 07/22/2010 09:57 AM, Steven Michalske wrote: Just make sure that if you've got high-speed digital lines that cross into the 'cubicles' they have gnd plane underneath them where they enter - don't let fast signals cross the cuts because then the return currents have to take a different path

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread myjunk stuff
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: One idea to consider is to start with a solid plane, and cut slots around the sensitive analog parts, like big C shaped moats, squares open on one side. You retain the big ground plane conductivity, but you prevent stray currents from

Re: gEDA-user: analog/digital partitioning

2010-07-22 Thread Geoff Swan
I came across this ([1]http://www.tentlabs.com/InfoSupport/page35/files/Supply_decoupling. pdf) some time ago. I would be interested to hear peoples thoughts as there are clearly many differing views on correct grounding and supply decoupling. The article certainly made a lot of