Kai-Martin:
Karl Hammar wrote:
Contribution is allowed to literally everyone. Click on the
edit button and go ahead. ...
You have to be online for that.
Install mediawiki from your preferred distro and you can edit and
render your contribution locally without. In addition, mediawiki
On 12/31/2010 05:30 AM, Karl Hammar wrote:
can the mediawiki content be handled
like any plain text file?
That page, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps
suggests The data is SQL, so you need a database connected with a local install
of mediawiki
to use it. If you
John Griessen wrote:
can the mediawiki content be handled like any plain text file?
That page, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps
suggests The data is SQL,
You have to differentiate between the article/wikibook and the wiki as
a whole. The content of a wikipedia
On 12/31/2010 10:36 AM, kai-martin knaak wrote:
The source of the geda/pcb manual is just a single document in
mediawiki syntax.
Oh sure, then that would be something to do with git. hadn't realized
Karl was referring to that.
John
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Karl Hammar wrote:
Contribution is allowed to literally everyone. Click on the
edit button and go ahead. ...
You have to be online for that.
Install mediawiki from your preferred distro and you can edit and
render your contribution locally without. In addition, mediawiki
allows external
On 26 December 2010 02:55, Mark Rages markra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
It about finding authors.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Eduardo Costa ecosta@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 December 2010 02:55, Mark Rages markra...@gmail.com wrote:
If it will stop the bikeshedding here, I volunteer to translate a
tutorial from crayon-on-napkin into LaTeX or DocBook or whatever. I
believe that the
Bob Paddock wrote:
How will a human from the Book project know what is and what is not
spam in an esoteric area like gEDA/PCB?
Some of the authors _with_ background will keep an eye on it.
And no, these author are not necessarily us. That's the whole
point of the operation: Get more people
Stefan Salewski wrote:
Not always a low entry barrier is a real benefit.
Wikipedia beats each and every encyclopedic dictionary
in existance. Nupedia, with the same aim but higher barrier
produced less than 100 article were started of which a mere 24
passed the review process in the three
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 09:50 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:
Stefan Salewski wrote:
Not always a low entry barrier is a real benefit.
Wikipedia beats each and every encyclopedic dictionary
in existance. Nupedia, with the same aim but higher barrier
produced less than 100 article were
John:
...
When thinking bout documentation, please do take into account the effort
being done by people line Shaun McCance, to create a new help format for
gnome.
If it was for me, I'd leave out a dependency on gnome. Hopefully the format
is text based and there are readers for other widget
Stefan Salewski:
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 10:43 +0100, Armin Faltl wrote:
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
LaTeX is fine for a thesis and text books, with many formulas, intended
to be printed and viewed as PDF.
For other documentation more versatile formats
Russell:
...
I don't do latex, because not one sane person on any planet
can explain Tex. (yes, i've read all the tex manuals and have written
compiler tools)
Strange wording. I've not read the tex manuals and I can still produce
and be fluent with Latex.
About Tex, it's just an old macro
Kai-Martin:
...
I have to agree with timecop on this issue: The problem that
needs to be solved, is not connected to the file format. It
about finding authors.
Yes and no, contributors efforts have to be accepted also as you
have mentioned from time to time.
This is the big benefit of the
On 26/12/10 01:13, Karl Hammar wrote:
Russell:
...
I don't do latex, because not one sane person on any planet
can explain Tex. (yes, i've read all the tex manuals and have written
compiler tools)
Strange wording. I've not read the tex manuals and I can still produce
and be fluent with Latex.
Armin:
...
I know that a wiki book may have some advantages in the collaboration
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Sending patches for TeX-files or chapters is a very simple process and
a pdf-book can be downloaded as a whole and read offline, printed.
That's what
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
It about finding authors.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there would be persons that
would be prepared to produce documents, if there were no necessity to
wade through the source code to detect what has
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 4:16 PM, John Coppens j...@jcoppens.com wrote:
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:20:03 +0100
kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
It about finding authors.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I think there would be persons that
would be prepared to produce documents, if
kai-martin knaak wrote:
Thank you for describing the available documents so compact.
What is missing in this picture?
IMHO, it is a manual on how to use the tools in concert. The
best approximation so far is the tutorial by Bill Wilson. But
as it is a beginners tutorial, it does not attempt
But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Because you just ruled out the remaining 1% of people who even wanted
to help with writing any kinda documentation.
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On Friday 24 December 2010 10:12:42 timecop wrote:
But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Because you just ruled out the remaining 1% of people who even wanted
to help with writing any kinda documentation.
Wrong. I much prefer writing LaTeX to writing wiki syntax. Also,
Den 2010-12-24 10:43:34 skrev Armin Faltl armin.fa...@aon.at:
kai-martin knaak wrote:
Thank you for describing the available documents so compact.
What is missing in this picture? IMHO, it is a manual on how to use the
tools in concert. The best approximation so far is the tutorial by Bill
Den 2010-12-24 11:23:35 skrev Peter TB Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk:
On Friday 24 December 2010 10:12:42 timecop wrote:
But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Because you just ruled out the remaining 1% of people who even wanted
to help with writing any kinda documentation.
Armin Faltl wrote:
I know that a wiki book may have some advantages in the collaboration
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
Because wikimedia provides the lowest entry barrier available.
Both, in terms of technology and in terms of sociology.
Sending patches for
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:43:34 +0100
Armin Faltl armin.fa...@aon.at wrote:
I know that a wiki book may have some advantages in the collaboration
of making. But why not a real book, that is written in LaTeX?
When thinking bout documentation, please do take into account the effort
being done by
snip
I think you guys are all missing the point.
The problem isn't 74239847 tools to write the docs in.
The problem is nobody wants to write them even if you have the best tools.
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John Coppens wrote:
I know that a wiki book may have some advantages in the
collaboration of making. But why not a real book, that
is written in LaTeX?
When thinking bout documentation, please do take into
account the effort being done by people line Shaun McCance,
to create a new help
Not even login with a fake name necessary.
Sounds like a new Spam portal. That we don't need.
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www.mallardproject.org documents this,
http://projectmallard.org/ I believe is the correct link.
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Bob Paddock wrote:
Not even login with a fake name necessary.
Sounds like a new Spam portal. That we don't need.
A wikibook project is hosted by the wikimedia foundation.
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikibooks
and
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page
Do it is technologically
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM, kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote:
Bob Paddock wrote:
Not even login with a fake name necessary.
Sounds like a new Spam portal. That we don't need.
Spam prevention by human watchdogs is part of the package.
How will a human from the Book project
On Fri, 2010-12-24 at 16:20 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:
I have to agree with timecop on this issue: The problem that
needs to be solved, is not connected to the file format. It
about finding authors. This is the big benefit of the wikibook
concept. The entry barrier is as low as it can
Hi KMK,
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Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gEDA Wikibook ? (was: Toporouter
crashing
Bert Timmerman bert.timmer...@xs4all.nl writes:
I don't think it's a Good Thing (TM) that a User Manual is derived
from source code files, for this would require a person with gEDA-dev
priviliges to push changes into the git repository.
I originally envisioned four manuals for PCB:
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com writes:
Bert Timmerman bert.timmer...@xs4all.nl writes:
I don't think it's a Good Thing (TM) that a User Manual is derived
from source code files, for this would require a person with gEDA-dev
priviliges to push changes into the git repository.
I originally
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:32 +0100, Stephan Boettcher wrote:
Documentation of gEDA, including PCB is a huge mess,
[...]
Indeed, I fully agree in my heart, but I have at least two good reasons
why I do not call it loud:
- It will discourage people to contribute
- I respect the people who
Bert Timmerman wrote:
I don't think it's a Good Thing (TM) that a User Manual is
derived from source code files, for this would require a
person with gEDA-dev priviliges to push changes into the
git repository.
Fair enough.
Anyway, the current situation is like this:
pcb:
The
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