Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-12 Thread gene glick
The schematic should be as readable as possible. Clearly you do not work where I do :) (or as some folks say "there you go, making sense again") > Preferred signal direction is left to right, top to bottom. Me too, whenever possible. ___ geda-

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Stephan Boettcher wrote: > My schematics usually look almost like the layout. The pins of the > symbols are placed like on the package. When in doubt, my design works the other way. The schematic should be as readable as possible. Preferred signal direction is left to right, top to bottom. I

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > (It would be fantastic if pcb could adjust traces > dynamically as components are moved.) One of my favorite daydreams during manual routing: A plugin that handles all all tracks like tensioned rubber band. Then let go of the components and TWANG! --> The board area shrin

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Stephan Boettcher
Colin D Bennett writes: > As a rather inexperienced PCB designer, I find that I have to throw > away two or three layouts until I get one that is usable--and still > not entirely satisfactory. I always end up with such a mess of traces > that I know I need better organization and a method to th

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Tue, 10 May 2011 21:58:57 -0400 gene glick wrote: > Kai-Martin posted that placement is more important than routing. I'd > say they are equally important. The best layout guy in the world > can't fix a lousy placement. Bogus layout guys throw more layers at > the problem. So yeah, take th

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 11 May 2011 02:26:43 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > Does anyone have any tips on how to plan a layout for easy and clean > > track routing? In particular for 2-layer boards. > > Put extra care into component placement. IMHO, placement is more > critical t

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Thomas Oldbury
I start off with schematics. People underestimate the need for a clear schematic. On the schematics, I tend to place components approximately where they will appear on the PCB. This gives me an idea of how traces are to be routed. I divide my schematics into virtual blocks - not actu

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-11 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 02:26:43AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > Does anyone have any tips on how to plan a layout for easy and clean > > track routing? In particular for 2-layer boards. > > Put extra care into component placement. IMHO, placement is more > criti

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-10 Thread Andrew Poelstra
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:26:06PM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: > As a rather inexperienced PCB designer, I find that I have to throw > away two or three layouts until I get one that is usable--and still > not entirely satisfactory. I always end up with such a mess of traces > that I know I need

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-10 Thread gene glick
Colin D Bennett wrote: As a rather inexperienced PCB designer, I find that I have to throw away two or three layouts until I get one that is usable--and still not entirely satisfactory. I always end up with such a mess of traces that I know I need better organization and a method to the madness.

Re: gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Colin D Bennett wrote: > Does anyone have any tips on how to plan a layout for easy and clean > track routing? In particular for 2-layer boards. Put extra care into component placement. IMHO, placement is more critical to the design than routing. > One strategy that I have seen and recently t

gEDA-user: pcb: Track routing strategies and tips

2011-05-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
As a rather inexperienced PCB designer, I find that I have to throw away two or three layouts until I get one that is usable--and still not entirely satisfactory. I always end up with such a mess of traces that I know I need better organization and a method to the madness. But I am a newb with lit