On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:29:46PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
Peter Clifton wrote:
the two '=' or remove the whole part 'a={= Key=}', what will
remove this key-binding for this menu-item.
Yes, I can recommend removing this key binding.
I do in my local builds for the
On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote:
I've always been interested in CAD programs and thought of making
a schematic/pcb one from scratch.
I've never truly understood why people would rewrite a (potentially)
huge application set just because. Why not start with the existing
tools and just
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 10:11 +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
I'm sure other languages use even more modifiers, but could
someone apply the following patch:
Committed, thanks! I made the equivalent change to the GTK HID whilst I
was at it, and wrote a commit message for you.
I look forward
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 20:36 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote:
I've always been interested in CAD programs and thought of making
a schematic/pcb one from scratch.
I've never truly understood why people would rewrite a (potentially)
huge application set
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 20:36 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote:
Hi,
A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant way.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol
and
footprint in the schematic/pcb
On May 17, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
Hi,
A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant way.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol
and footprint in the schematic/pcb library, and make a decent library browser.
Then i
On 17/05/11 22:31, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 20:36 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
On 17/05/11 02:44, DJ Delorie wrote:
Hi,
A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant way.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol and
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 12:02 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
Core features in the PCB editor can be pretty complex. We have a lot of
code for dealing with polygon geometry,
May we consider use of clipping libraries like
http://angusj.com/delphi/clipper.php
On 17/05/11 22:40, John Doty wrote:
On May 17, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
Hi, A schematic/pcb editor is not huge unless it's done in an inelegant
way.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the symbol
and footprint in the schematic/pcb library, and make a
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:35 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
I was expert at using high-end HP DCS/PCDS on unix boxes 20 years
ago before it got discontinued, and a few other cad systems since then.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for drawing the
symbol and footprint in
On 17/05/11 23:43, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:35 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
I was expert at using high-end HP DCS/PCDS on unix boxes 20 years
ago before it got discontinued, and a few other cad systems since then.
A very first task i would do is create a decent gui for
On May 17, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
A well-stocked workshop is nothing more than a multitool workshop.
With that attitude, you'll botch the job.
There's
no reason why a schematic and pcb editor can't have tight coupling and
still interact with all external tools.
The
On 18/05/11 00:15, John Doty wrote:
On May 17, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
A well-stocked workshop is nothing more than a multitool workshop.
With that attitude, you'll botch the job.
There's no reason why a schematic and pcb editor can't have tight coupling
and still interact
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail
at what currently exists.
Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you?
Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available for multiple OS including
windows. Here in Germany
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail
at what currently exists.
Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you?
Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available for
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail
at what currently exists.
Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you?
Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available for
On 18/05/11 00:30, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:59 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
Instead of blindly reinventing the wheel, i always look in detail
at what currently exists.
Maybe KiCAD is a better starting point for you?
Written in C++ with wxWidgets, it is available for
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 00:41 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
The problem with KiCAD is 1) C++, 2) Qt.
C++ was a *really* bad idea. Qt i don't like because it was fundamentally
architected just for the sake of hiding code from users using the MOC
preprocessor that used to be closed source.
On May 17, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
It seems like too much redundancy to have two projects with similar
uses (which i wouldn't like), and i don't like forking either.
But your vision is an integrated tool, while gEDA is a toolkit.
I'm still studying geda, but if i did some
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:06 +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
I'm still studying geda, but if i did some real work on it, it
would end up having an extra file format, extra guis, and a closer
sch/pcb link.
Maybe a good starting point is defining a new extended file format. (For
current pcb
On 18/05/11 01:41, John Doty wrote:
On May 17, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
It seems like too much redundancy to have two projects with similar uses
(which i wouldn't like), and i don't like forking either.
But your vision is an integrated tool, while gEDA is a toolkit.
I'm
Hi folks,
It's no longer a worthwhile use of my time to monitor this list, due to the
excessively low signal-to-noise ratio. I'm therefore unsubscribing from it for
the time being. I will continue to monitor the gEDA-bug and gEDA-dev mailing
lists.
If you wish to get help with using gEDA,
On May 17, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Russell Shaw wrote:
Most guis hide what they do. I believe in them showing the commands they
send internally as a script would (or atleast have the option to show that)
so the user can paste the commands into an external file if needed.
I've done GUIs that wrap
On 18/05/11 02:01, Peter TB Brett wrote:
Hi folks,
It's no longer a worthwhile use of my time to monitor this list, due to the
excessively low signal-to-noise ratio. I'm therefore unsubscribing from it for
the time being. I will continue to monitor the gEDA-bug and gEDA-dev mailing
lists.
If
Hi John,
Russell Shaw wrote:
There's no reason why a schematic and pcb editor can't have tight
coupling and still interact with all external tools.
John Doty wrote:
The architectures are different. To flexibly interact with external
tools, you need the interfaces to be simple text files.
There are already two IPC architectures in place between gschem and
PCB:
1. Text files.
2. The user.
3. dbus
(at least, we had it working at one point)
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On May 17, 2011, at 11:15 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:
There are already two IPC architectures in place between gschem and
PCB:
1. Text files.
2. The user.
3. dbus
(at least, we had it working at one point)
dbus is one of the approaches I had in mind when I wrote:
Last year I did apresentationon getting started with gEDA at the 2010
Open Source Bridge conference. I've been meaning to release the slides
for a long time and finally got around to it.
I dont have complete presentation notes but you can view the speaker
notes I did make from the
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 15:36 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 12:02 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
Core features in the PCB editor can be pretty complex. We have a lot of
code for dealing with polygon geometry,
May we consider use of clipping libraries like
Hi guys,
That's not true at all John. Have you ever heard/seen a program called
Alias Wavefront Maya? It used to be from Silicon Graphics, but they
sold it to Autodesk a couple of years ago.
A program for 3D CGI which has quite an innovative popup menu system
with something called hotboxes and
On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:29:46 +0200
Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de wrote:
Peter Clifton wrote:
the two '=' or remove the whole part 'a={= Key=}', what will
remove this key-binding for this menu-item.
Yes, I can recommend removing this key binding.
I do in my local builds
That's a shot of it:
http://imageshack.us/f/84/shoti.png/
It lacks a two cadinal pointers in the image, as I was testing don't
remember what when I had stop it.
I also forgot to say is done right on top of Xlib and uses XResources
for font color, background and border color. No dependencies or
On Mon, 16 May 2011 16:41:11 -0700
Steven Michalske smichal...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 16, 2011, at 4:25 PM, al davis ad...@freeelectron.net wrote:
On Monday 16 May 2011, Steven Michalske wrote:
But lawyers can use that clause as a loophole to invalidate
legitimate patents.
Minor
As part of my project to convert PCB's internal units
to nanometers from cmils, I am cleaning up and unifying
the unit handling code in the core and various HID's.
In the gcode HID there is an auxiliary function to
convert pcb's units to an integer number of ``dots''
(what the printer uses when
On Tue, 17 May 2011 01:12:14 +0100
Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 00:10 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote:
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 15:22 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:10:30 +0200
I bisected the bug and determined it was introduced 2011-04-30
Can anyone else confirm this bug:
segfault crash after using Move Object to Current Layer
Bug #783640
https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/783640
The bug seems to have existed in pcb for a long time as I have tested
and verified its existence on many versions.
Regards,
Colin
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 02:45:56PM -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote:
Can anyone else confirm this bug:
segfault crash after using Move Object to Current Layer
Bug #783640
https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/783640
The bug seems to have existed in pcb for a long time as I have tested
and
Am 17.05.2011 um 23:36 schrieb Andrew Poelstra:
does it
matter whether we use truncation or rounding in this
calculation? If so, which should be used?
I can't think of a situation where truncating is more accurate than
rounding, so rounding is always better, IMHO.
If you work on the
On May 17, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Eduardo Costa wrote:
A program for 3D CGI which has quite an innovative popup menu system
with something called hotboxes and cardinal menus (the one shown
bellow). 200% productive, and much better than anyother
existing/deployed nowadays:
That's not the toolkit
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 14:52 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote:
To reproduce the crash:
1. Open the test2.pcb layout in pcb.
2. Put the mouse over the line connecting R1 and TP2.
3. Press '2' to select solder layer.
4. Press 'm' to move the line to the solder layer.
5. Press 'o' to optimize rats.
http://dkgbb.de/dh.php
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Stefan Salewski wrote:
While gEDA/PCB has some serious
users and a large list of projects done with gEDA, KiCAD users seems to
be more childreen type, making boards with a power LED and a led driver
chip...
kicad is the EDA chosen by some high profile open hardware projects:
* reprap
BTW, what are the show cases for geda/pcb?
There's a list on gpleda.org:
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:links
Personally, climate control and electrical monitoring in my house is
done by gEDA/PCB projects.
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DJ Delorie wrote:
There's a list on gpleda.org:
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:links
What would be the top five with regard to public visibility, nerdiness, or
technological impact?
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