Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
That's perfect. That's exactly what I thought would be the case, I just hadn't figured out how to set it up. Thanks! David Logan DJ Delorie wrote: You tell me that I must have each gschem element represented by a footprint. Technically, each gschem symbol *belongs* to a device, not *is*

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> You tell me that I must have each gschem element represented by a > footprint. Technically, each gschem symbol *belongs* to a device, not *is* a device. The *device* is represented by a footprint. You can have multiple symbols belonging to the same device, for example my CS8900A has two gsch

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> One of my biggest problems with this software so far has been my > difficulty in finding "the complete" set of information, from "this > is how you spell P-C-B" to references. I've been working on this recently. At the moment, I'm adding comments to the code for each action, which become both

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> "pcb --help" might be expanded to include hints to the sources of > information available online (manual, bug tracking system, wiki). I'd put it in the About dialog, or somewhere in the Help menu. (1) I wouldn't expect people to use --help that often, and (2) I wouldn't expect them to notice

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
Aha! I think the slot= attribute was the answer to my question to begin with! :) Thanks, I shall go research that. David Logan We are not clear where your hangup is. Perhaps you don't know about the slot= attribute? Please tell us exactly where in the flow you are stuck. John Doty

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread Stuart Brorson
> "pcb --help" might be expanded to include hints to the sources of > information available online (manual, bug tracking system, wiki). Here's an offer: If somebody takes the time to include a bit of text pointing to the wiki into the --help sting for each of gschem, gattrib, gnetlist, gsch2pcb,

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread John Doty
On Apr 4, 2006, at 6:45 AM, David Logan wrote: OK, maybe I'm being brain dead, but I'm reading that you're either not answering the question, or you're telling me conflicting information. I'm probably wrong on both counts, but I'm not seeing your point. You tell me that I must have each

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
But (a) something is better than nothing, and (b) A help file essentially can be tied to a release, with help file updates installed with new release updates. One of my biggest problems with this software so far has been my difficulty in finding "the complete" set of information, from "this is

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread kmk
kaimartin wrote: > "pcb --help" might be expanded to include hints to the sources of > information available online (manual, bug tracking system, wiki). The same goes for gschem and gsch2pcb of course. ---<(kaimartin)>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://lilalaser.dyndns.org

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread kmk
David Logan wrote: > How about installing it as a local help file? I wouldn't do that. After all, it is a wiki that is suppose to be edited and updated frequently. If there were copies in the distribution, referring to the wiki would get ambiguous. "pcb --help" might be expanded to include hint

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
OK, maybe I'm being brain dead, but I'm reading that you're either not answering the question, or you're telling me conflicting information. I'm probably wrong on both counts, but I'm not seeing your point. You tell me that I must have each gschem element represented by a footprint. But you te

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread John Luciani
Separating the 7400 into four gates (slots) usually makes for a more readable schematic. You have more space to place each gate and its peripheral components in a logical arrangement. (* jcl *) On 4/4/06, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My main gripe now is that I have to go find (or bui

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
Stuart Brorson wrote: Interesting comment. We have been trying to get newbies to read the wiki for quite a while, but apparently haven't been wildly successful. In your opinion, what is the best way to get newbies to read the wiki? Possibilities: * Big, red link from gEDA front page (geda.s

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
My main gripe now is that I have to go find (or build) a gschem symbol for a 7400 chip, since gschem only has the individual logic gates as symbols. Does one exist? Thanks! David Logan John Luciani wrote: You need to set the footprint attribute for each symbol in your schematic. http://ged

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread John Luciani
A red link (or some sort of wiki icon) up in the quick links on the gEDA front page would be nice. (* jcl *) On 4/4/06, Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting comment. We have been trying to get newbies to read the > wiki for quite a while, but apparently haven't been wildly > s

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread Stuart Brorson
Interesting comment. We have been trying to get newbies to read the wiki for quite a while, but apparently haven't been wildly successful. In your opinion, what is the best way to get newbies to read the wiki? Possibilities: * Big, red link from gEDA front page (geda.seul.org)? * Link or URL

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread David Logan
This is a *great* resource. I think it should be someplace with big flashing lights for new users. David Logan John Luciani wrote: You need to set the footprint attribute for each symbol in your schematic. http://geda.seul.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=geda:pcb_tips#i_want_to_use_pcb_to_do_layout

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread John Luciani
You need to set the footprint attribute for each symbol in your schematic. http://geda.seul.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=geda:pcb_tips#i_want_to_use_pcb_to_do_layout._how_do_i_know_what_value_to_use_for_the_footprint_attribute (* jcl *) On 4/4/06, David Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone

Re: gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-04 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 10:38:23PM -0600, David Logan wrote: > Does anyone know how to convert the gschem 7400 symbols into the actual > 74xx pins on a 74xx chip so that it can be loaded into pcb? Symbols are not to be converted into pins. > > What do I need to do to get gsch2pcb to recognize t

gEDA-user: 7400, gschem and gsch2pcb

2006-04-03 Thread David Logan
Does anyone know how to convert the gschem 7400 symbols into the actual 74xx pins on a 74xx chip so that it can be loaded into pcb? What do I need to do to get gsch2pcb to recognize the in/out pins of the 7400 gschem symbols and equate them to the pins in the pcb 74xx chip? Thanks! David Log