Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-22 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On Thursday 20 April 2006 21:04, Stuart Brorson wrote: > As Dan pointed out, I think you should use gschem -> gnetlist -g > spice-sdb -> ngspice/gnucap as your analog simulation flow.  I think > you should invoke the programs from the command line.  The command > line is not difficult, and knowing

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-22 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On Friday 21 April 2006 02:10, Dan McMahill wrote: > I don't think I understand where that comment is coming from.  Cadence It's coming from a 5+ years cadence user. > has a simulation front-end which really isn't that bad and it has lots > of things which are very helpful to designers.  Backanno

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote: Even billion dollar tool creators like Cadence don't manage to make simulation front-ends which really help the designers. A simulator front-end does not need to be fancy, but it has to support a lot of simulator options. And since there are at least more than two sim

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Stuart Brorson
Umm, perhaps I was misunderstood. Perhaps I wrote unclearly. Or perhaps people are in the mood to pontificate today. As Dan pointed out, I think you should use gschem -> gnetlist -g spice-sdb -> ngspice/gnucap as your analog simulation flow. I think you should invoke the programs from the comma

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On Thursday 20 April 2006 16:59, Stuart Brorson wrote: > However, I do agree with the other posters who said that you should > get used to the command line, since when you become more advanced you > will find that it is much more powerful than using a point-and-drool > interface.  Using Makefiles t

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread John Doty
On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Markus Feldmann wrote: Thanks for your Answer. I think that it is an advantage from the GUI to setup a circuit but thats my opinion. I think i would be confused to not forget the many node Numbers, and which is conected with whom. Oh, certainly draw your schema

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Stuart Brorson
Markus -- Dan made me think that you need to read this: http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/t1.html Stuart > > Markus Feldmann wrote: > > > > > > Stuart Brorson wrote: > > > >>The geda program manager is deprecated. It hasn't been updated in > >>several years, and is showing signs of age.

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Markus Feldmann wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: The geda program manager is deprecated. It hasn't been updated in several years, and is showing signs of age. I suggest you just run the tools from the command line. Alternately, you can hack the source to run gnucap. HTH and fG, Stuart

gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Markus Feldmann
Thanks for your Answer. I think that it is an advantage from the GUI to setup a circuit but thats my opinion. I think i would be confused to not forget the many node Numbers, and which is conected with whom. mfg Markus

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Stuart Brorson
You can use gspiceui to partially automate the use of ngspice or gnucap. If you don't already have it, you can grab it from the gEDA website. However, I do agree with the other posters who said that you should get used to the command line, since when you become more advanced you will find that i

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread David Logan
Markus Feldmann wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: The geda program manager is deprecated. It hasn't been updated in several years, and is showing signs of age. I suggest you just run the tools from the command line. That explains why it still crashes over the same stupid things it used

Re: gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Peter Brett
On Thursday 20 April 2006 15:38, Markus Feldmann wrote: > Thanks for your fast Answer, > but is there any GUI to build the Netlist or another Workaround. > I know that i could do this manually by Hand, but > for larger Circuits i think, thats an disadvatage. Nah, for larger circuits it's worth us

gEDA-user: Re: change from ngspice to gnucap

2006-04-20 Thread Markus Feldmann
Stuart Brorson wrote: > The geda program manager is deprecated. It hasn't been updated in > several years, and is showing signs of age. I suggest you just run > the tools from the command line. > > Alternately, you can hack the source to run gnucap. > > HTH and fG, > > Stuart > > >> Hi,