Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-18 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >Now the download page (http://geda.seul.org/download.html) generates >the following error when I attempt to execute it in my brain: > I have added some text to make it a little more obvious what new users should download and install. I may remove the rest of the page, but I'm not

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-14 Thread Charles Lepple
On 9/14/05, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:01:44PM -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > > Huh? Isn't it just a simple matter of running: > > > > apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev > > But that isntalls GTK 2.0, true? gEDA needs AFAIK GTK 2.2. http://packages.

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-14 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:01:44PM -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > [snip] > >1) Merge PCB into gEDA so it gets installed all at once. If installing > > PCB is an issue, add --disable-pcb into ./configure > > Stuart's cd has already been mentioned. :) > > >2) Make the install process one ./con

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-14 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 10:07:32PM -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > [snip] > >Yes instructions on the download page "download Stuart installer this > >and this way from this file" and hiding the rest of the files or placing > >them in a way that the user sees they shouldn't attempt to download > >them s

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-13 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >Yes instructions on the download page "download Stuart installer this >and this way from this file" and hiding the rest of the files or placing >them in a way that the user sees they shouldn't attempt to download >them separately. > Hmmm. Should I really dumb down the download pag

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-12 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 09:54:01PM -0400, Ales Hvezda wrote: > [snip] > >> Would it be possible to do the following changes to increase usability? > >> 1) Merge PCB into gEDA so it gets installed all at once. If installing > >>PCB is an issue, add --disable-pcb into ./configure > >> 2) Make the

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-11 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >1) Merge PCB into gEDA so it gets installed all at once. If installing > PCB is an issue, add --disable-pcb into ./configure Stuart's cd has already been mentioned. :) >2) Make the install process one ./configure && make && make install if > possible. Installing gEDA fresh alw

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-11 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >> Would it be possible to do the following changes to increase usability? >> 1) Merge PCB into gEDA so it gets installed all at once. If installing >>PCB is an issue, add --disable-pcb into ./configure >> 2) Make the install process one ./configure && make && make install if >>possi

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-11 Thread Ales Hvezda
[snip] >Another option is to plop some giant statically-linked binaries on the >CD. No install necessary, just lots of RAM. > I haven't had much success getting gtk+ applications to be happy statically linked. Yes, I built everything statically (include gtk+ which requires special flags),

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-09 Thread Mark Rages
On 9/9/05, Stuart Brorson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As John pointed out in another posting, goal #2 is accomplished > using the install CD. Some points w.r.t. the install CD: Respect to Stuart for his work, but I have a different idea: I think the installer GUI could be replaced with a Makefi

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-09 Thread Stuart Brorson
As John pointed out in another posting, goal #2 is accomplished using the install CD. Some points w.r.t. the install CD: * Mario, if you feel like hacking the install process, please consider looking at the install CD & hacking the Python-based install wizard. The code is pretty straightforward

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-09 Thread John Luciani
I believe your install problems go away if you use Stuart's ISO image. I have installed (painlessly) using the last few releases. (* jcl *) On 9/9/05, Karel Kulhavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > Would it be possible to do following changes to improve usability? About > 3 people now want

Re: gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-09 Thread Mario Klebsch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Am 09.09.2005 um 11:25 schrieb Karel Kulhavy: Would it be possible to do the following changes to increase usability? 1) Merge PCB into gEDA so it gets installed all at once. If installing PCB is an issue, add --disable-pcb into ./configure 2

gEDA-user: Usability issues of gEDA + PCB

2005-09-09 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello Would it be possible to do following changes to improve usability? About 3 people now want to help the Ronja project and explaining them gEDA and PCB is a pain in the ass. They get stuck on something every couple of hours when trying to work with gEDA and PCB. All contributions to Ronja are