Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

> -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 9:51 PM > To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); Sam Hartman > Cc: draft-ietf-pcp-authentication@tools.ietf.org; General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-iet

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

On 7/10/15 12:09 AM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) wrote: Hi Paul, Please see inline -Original Message- From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 8:26 PM To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); Sam Hartman Cc: draft-ietf-pcp-authentication@tools.ietf.

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Paul, Please see inline > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 8:26 PM > To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); Sam Hartman > Cc: draft-ietf-pcp-authentication@tools.ietf.org; General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: Gen-A

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

On 7/8/15 7:20 AM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) wrote: I agree with the discussion and propose the following text to address the comments. NEW: Where? I suspect there is need of another document section, or even a larger reorganization, to fit this in with all the other changes we have dis

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

I agree with the discussion and propose the following text to address the comments. NEW: If a PCP server resets or loses the PCP SA due to reboot, power failure, or any reason then it sends unsolicited ANNOUNCE response as explained in section 14.1.3 of [RFC6887] to the PCP client. Upon

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Paul, Please see inline > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:49 AM > To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); draft-ietf-pcp- > authentication@tools.ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Re: Gen-ART Telec

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

On 7/7/15 9:04 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: Yes. At this point I think you and I understand what we're talking about. I haven't been involved in this doc in a while. I think we need to let Tirumaleswar comment as well as get feedback from the rest of the group. The main think I have been bringing to

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Yes. At this point I think you and I understand what we're talking about. I haven't been involved in this doc in a while. I think we need to let Tirumaleswar comment as well as get feedback from the rest of the group. Some of this may have been discussed in the WG while I was not watching, and you

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

On 7/7/15 2:29 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: >> You seem to be thinking of authentication as something that tends >> to benefit the server. In some deployments that's certainly >> true. However, the client may gain significant benefit from: >> >> * Gaining integrity protectio

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Tiru, While the discussion with you and Sam continues on the major points, I'll comment here on the others. I'm trimming to just the points I'm replying to. On 7/6/15 10:20 AM, Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) wrote: [EDITORIAL] Also, I'm still troubled by: From now on, every PCP messa

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

> "Paul" == Paul Kyzivat writes: Paul> Hi Sam, Paul> On 7/7/15 11:24 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> "Paul" == Paul Kyzivat writes: >> Paul> Do you agree with this conclusion? If not, please explain why Paul> you think my logic is wrong. >> >> I partially agr

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Sam, On 7/7/15 11:24 AM, Sam Hartman wrote: "Paul" == Paul Kyzivat writes: Paul> Do you agree with this conclusion? If not, please explain why Paul> you think my logic is wrong. I partially agree with your conclusion. I agree that we need a mechanism to resynchronize state, and

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

> "Paul" == Paul Kyzivat writes: Paul> Do you agree with this conclusion? If not, please explain why Paul> you think my logic is wrong. I partially agree with your conclusion. I agree that we need a mechanism to resynchronize state, and I agree that unsolicited announces aren't reall

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Tiru, Before responding to you in detail about the draft text, I think we need to resolve some general mechanism issues. You responded to my questions about multiple PA sessions by saying that a host can have several independent PCP clients, and described in RFC6887. But that misses my po

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

Hi Paul, Please see inline > -Original Message- > From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:pkyzi...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:24 AM > To: draft-ietf-pcp-authentication@tools.ietf.org > Cc: General Area Review Team > Subject: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authenticati

[Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-pcp-authentication-13.txt

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at <​ http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. This draft is on the right tr