Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-25 Thread Pete Forsyth
I think my general approach to Wikipedia is not exactly typical of the voices commonly heard on the lists, so I want to share a few thoughts here about how I've approached civility. Like Anne, I have never felt that punitive measures are terribly effective at changing behavior; and like Ryan exper

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-25 Thread Risker
Ryan, you are a kind and good person. So forgive me for having to be truthful here. Not once in the history of Wikipedia has a 24-hour block for civility problems ever resulted in the blocked editor becoming more civil. Instead, it is almost guaranteed to result in their being *less* civil. I don

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-25 Thread Emily Monroe
In my opinion, civility is a big, big deal, since it has the obvious effect of running off potentially decent editors. In practice, this can be like banning an innocent editor. From, Emily On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Earlier today, a long-standing editor was reported

[Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

2011-10-25 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Earlier today, a long-standing editor was reported to AN/I for making personal attacks. The specific attacks were the following two posts: "You simply display your ignorance." "Please carry on, so everyone can see what an ignorant arse you are." As I had recently warned this same user for making

Re: [Gendergap] No sources - argh!!

2011-10-25 Thread Andreas K.
Hi Erin, There is a mention of a law ("Ley disponiendo que la Villa de Urubamba se denomine Benemérita Ciudad de Urubamba") enacted on 9 November 1839 here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pi9FYAAJ&pg=PA391&dq=urubamba+%229+de+noviembre%22+OR+%229+november%22&hl=en&ei=qounTvuGK4Ku8gOukLmvD

Re: [Gendergap] Does Wikipedia Hate Drag Queens?

2011-10-25 Thread Ryan Kaldari
We have plenty of drag queen articles with great pictures: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RuPaul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Coco_Peru http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Epperson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shangay_Lily http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbette_%28performer%29 Ryan Kaldari

Re: [Gendergap] Does Wikipedia Hate Drag Queens?

2011-10-25 Thread Nepenthe
Maybe it's just privilege talking, but the photos don't seem much less flattering than many of our photos of celebrities. It is the nature of the project: we have mostly amateur photographers taking candids at public events, so the subject inevitably has their mouth open speaking and doesn't look g

Re: [Gendergap] No sources - argh!!

2011-10-25 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Does Urubamba have a library? If they do, I would check there first and ask the librarian if they have any books on local history/culture. If not, you may want to check out http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oral_citations Ryan Kaldari On 10/24/11 9:03 PM, Erin O'Rourke wrote: Hey all, I'm curre

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 68

2011-10-25 Thread Migdia Chinea
>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> >On the surface I tend to agree, but then I read the AfD: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deleti

[Gendergap] Does Wikipedia Hate Drag Queens?

2011-10-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
http://lindasimpson.org/2011/10/does-wikipedia-hate-drag-queens/ Funny little blog about the photos being used for...welldrag queens! -Sarah -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art

[Gendergap] Female FOSS dev quits tech industry due to harrasment:

2011-10-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/50641-female-foss-dev-quits-tech-industry-due-to-harassment -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art and Sara

[Gendergap] No sources - argh!!

2011-10-25 Thread Erin O'Rourke
Hey all, I'm currently living in Urubamba, Peru I want to improve the article on the town. Unfortunately I'm not sure where to start given so little is published about it. My efforts to find history I could source has come up with little to nothing, but given I'm living here I now know the officia

Re: [Gendergap] Women and Wikimedia Survey

2011-10-25 Thread Aude
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have released the data from my survey, Women and Wikimedia, here: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Women_and_Wikimedia_Survey_2011 > Sarah, Thank you so much for conducting the survey! It's very informative and great to

[Gendergap] Women and Wikimedia Survey

2011-10-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
Hi everyone, I have released the data from my survey, Women and Wikimedia, here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Women_and_Wikimedia_Survey_2011 Please share and thanks to all who participated. I do hope people find value in this..I know I have Sarah Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advanc

Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy?

2011-10-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
...and one more thing - it's also the straight peoples guide to dating. And the majority of queer mentions go into internet dating with specific focus on gay men (the word "lesbian" is used once, a mention of transexuals is there twice but the same fact in both places - and it's in conjunction wi

Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy?

2011-10-25 Thread Sarah Stierch
I also noticed the menu in the top right lists dating in the abuse section (and activities). I understand that abuse can take place during dating (and any other relationship at that) but does it really merit being in the abuse section? Next to "child" "elderly" and "domestic?" If you're datin

Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy?

2011-10-25 Thread Gillian White
I had looked at this article and yes, it contains the sort of muddled stuff which sends me bonkers! Bad history and bad sociology mixed up with random advice and juvenile opinion. Ek. Makes you want to give up, although to be fair, it is a difficult topic to write on and would need considerable