[Gendergap] How to proceed?

2015-01-16 Thread LB
So I made the WikiProject Women proposal at the IdeaLab: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women 10 days ago now, with some remarkable support , IMO. I'd like t

[Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread LB
Based on a discussion at the WikiProject Women IdeaLab talk page , I have started a test Kaffeeklatsch area for women (cis, lesbian, transgender)

[Gendergap] Gender-Gap best practices?

2015-01-16 Thread Dirk Franke
Dear people interested in the Gender Gap, after a long long time since I last wrote on this list, let me re-introduce myself: I'm Dirk/southpark. I'm a long time Wikipedian/Wikimedian with some spare time in his hands and the intent to use it for something useful and to make Wikipedia a better pla

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 1/16/2015 2:20 PM, LB wrote: Based on a discussion at the WikiProject Women IdeaLab talk page , I have started a test Kaffeeklatsch area f

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Katherine Casey
*"Also note many women consider "cis" to be an insult that eliminates womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women."* ...wha? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote: > On 1/16/2015 2:20 PM, LB wro

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Sarah Stierch
I'm not cis..and it was a term I only learned about a few years ago... but, here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender It means that someone identifies as the gender they were born with. So, if you're born with female parts and you identify as a woman and it's totally in

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Risker
Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a coined term that is not used in science. Risker/Anne On 16 January 2015 at 16:33, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I'm not cis..and it was a term I only lear

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread JJ Marr
What will be discussed in this Kaffeeklatsch area? On Jan 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Risker" wrote: > Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that > sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a > coined term that is not used in science. > > Risker/

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread LB
I hesitated to use the term, but it seemed to be shorthand for exactly what you just said, Sarah. At least that's how I meant it, and I didn't mean to suggest that it's scientific. Lightbreather On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I'm not cis..and it was a term I only learne

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Heather Walls
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Risker wrote: > Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that > sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a > coined term that is not used in science. > What makes a term scientific other than that scientist

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread LB
Whatever we want to that doesn't break WP policy or the klatsch's rules. I envision it along the lines of the WikiProject Women proposal at the IdeaLab. Lightbreather On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:06 PM, JJ Marr wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Risker
On 16 January 2015 at 17:13, Heather Walls wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Risker wrote: > >> Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that >> sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a >> coined term that is not used in science.

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread GorillaWarfare
I'm a member of a feminist safe space that simply uses "not men," and leaves it to members to judge if this applies to them. Just a thought. – Molly (GorillaWarfare) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription pre

Re: [Gendergap] Test Kaffeeklatsch area for women-only

2015-01-16 Thread Heather Walls
> The "cis" prefix is most frequently used when there is a fairly equal >> division between two different presentations. >> > Not in some of my circles. > Thus, using this prefix prefix inaccurately reflects the distribution of > gender identities. Let's not kid ourselves, no matter what data ar