[Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I'm both a long-time admin on Commons and an OTRS volunteer. I've been wanting to chime in on this thread, but haven't really had the time. I'm worried though that I'm about to see history repeat itself, so I want to quickly share a few thoughts... First, the issue of consent on Commons has bee

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Mon, 12/9/11, Ryan Kaldari wrote: First, the issue of consent on Commons has been passionately debates for years, and has a long and tortured history. Before proposing anything, please make yourself familiar with the previous discussions and their outcomes. Most notably the discussions s

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Bauder
Here's something we might do though. Addition of any image which violates anyone's privacy to any article can be suppressed on the English Wikipedia. Using this policy: "Removal of non-public personal information, such as phone numbers, home addresses, workplaces or identities of pseudonymous or an

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Here's something we might do though. Addition of any image which violates > anyone's privacy to any article can be suppressed on the English > Wikipedia. Using this policy: "Removal of non-public personal > information, such as phone numbers, h

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Bauder
> > As soon as I have some free time, I'll whip up such a template and throw > it into the water. It'll be interesting to see how it is received. > > Ryan Kaldari Ok, sounds like a plan. I'll make a noise in the east; you strike in the west... Fred

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-12 Thread Toby Hudson
Hi Ryan, A draft template was actually made to augment the mostly recently voted [[COM:SEX]] proposal: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Consent The proposal closed with no consensus*, but with a few modifications, the template could still be put to good use. Toby / 99of9 *Mainly beca

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I have created the new consent template: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Consent Here is an example of it in use: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Splitting_logs_with_a_gas_powered_log_splitter.JPG I also added a new section to the Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_persons gu

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Sarah
That looks good, Ryan. Would it make sense to add something about the release of the image? For example, "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown specifically consented to this photograph or video being taken and released under a free licence." Sarah On Tue, Sep 13, 201

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Toby Hudson
I agree. As you wrote this email, I was altering it to include the phrase "consent to publish". Your wording is better, I'll change to that. Toby/99of9 On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Sarah wrote: > That looks good, Ryan. Would it make sense to add something about the > release of the image?

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Sydney Poore
I like the template and added it to a few of my uploads to see how it works. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Simon_Planting_%28bassist%29_of_the_John_Jorgenson_Quintet-1.JPG I like the change in wording Sarah suggests. Sydney On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Sarah wrote: > That looks g

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Ryan Kaldari
I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown specifically consented to publication of this photograph or video under a free license, granting unrestricted rights to re

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Sarah Stierch
I think this is really great, thank you Kaldari for taking the time to create this. The n00b in me asks : 1) Is this trackable? That is, a hidden category or anything? and the rest: 2) I think we should solidify the policy documentation (i.e. the recent board passing, etc), and complete that w

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-13 Thread Tracy Poff
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If > you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: > "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown > specifically consented to publication of this photograph or vid

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Ryan Kaldari > wrote: >> I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If >> you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: >> "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown >> specifically consented to publication of this photograp

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 17:39, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I added a new parameter to the template for indicating full consent. If > you use {{consent|full}} it outputs: > "I personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown > specifically consented to publication of this photograph or video

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 14/09/2011 16:56, Sarah wrote: > So the problem with the basic consent template as written -- "I > personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown > specifically consented to this photograph or video" -- is that it > implies to the unsuspecting that consent has been given to tak

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sarah
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 09:25, Arnaud HERVE wrote: > On 14/09/2011 16:56, Sarah wrote: >> So the problem with the basic consent template as written -- "I >> personally created this media. All identifiable persons shown >> specifically consented to this photograph or video" -- is that it >> implies

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On 9/13/11 8:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > I think this is really great, thank you Kaldari for taking the time to > create this. > > The n00b in me asks : > > 1) Is this trackable? That is, a hidden category or anything? There aren't any categories currently, but I could add some. Right now, yo

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Sydney Poore
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > On 9/13/11 8:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > > I think this is really great, thank you Kaldari for taking the time to > > create this. > > > > The n00b in me asks : > > > > 1) Is this trackable? That is, a hidden category or anything? > > There

Re: [Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

2011-09-14 Thread Emily Monroe
FloNight said: > [snip] It make no real difference what it is called, guideline or policy, as long > as everyone one is singing from the same page in the hymnal. The deletion > discussion over the past week, (and there have been many of them using lack > of model consent as reason) have gone wel