Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-06 Thread Sarah Stierch
Shouldn't this discussion be taking place *on* the LGBT list? ;-) Sarah Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) On Jul 6, 2012, at 1:09 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > WMF could put up funding for research to be done by experts. > > On Jul 6, 2012 2:06 PM, wrote

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-06 Thread Tom Morris
On Friday, 6 July 2012 at 07:11, koltzenb...@w4w.net wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:47:58 +0100, Tom Morris wrote > > I'm not sure I agree that LGBT is another gender gap. > > > > my impression is that there certainly are gender gaps in LGBTIQA* communities > - if ever non-heterosexual > peop

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-06 Thread John Vandenberg
WMF could put up funding for research to be done by experts. On Jul 6, 2012 2:06 PM, wrote: > Hi John > > > havent seen similar quality academic studies about LGBT within the > > wikimedia community - > > these studies tend to be very simplistic due to lack > > if understanding or inadequate fund

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-06 Thread koltzenburg
Hi John > havent seen similar quality academic studies about LGBT within the > wikimedia community - > these studies tend to be very simplistic due to lack > if understanding or inadequate funding, and/or riddled with bias without > explanation. so here we can definitely point to a common concer

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-05 Thread John Vandenberg
Hi Claudia. There are good numbers for LGBT in real world populations, and the people doing the studies are all to aware of the problems with their numbers - there are journals dedicated to research in this discipline. i havent seen similar quality academic studies about LGBT within the wikimedia

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-05 Thread koltzenburg
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 09:47:58 +0100, Tom Morris wrote > I'm not sure I agree that LGBT is another gender gap. my impression is that there certainly are gender gaps in LGBTIQA* communities - if ever non-heterosexual people are happy to be lumped together just because of not identifying non-hetero

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-02 Thread koltzenburg
thanks, Ryan so this seems clear now: there may be different kinds of difficulties in a list creation process and all of these are now solved as regards the new lgbt list, is that it? cheers Claudia On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:51:57 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote > Just to clarify, Phillipe expressed co

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Just to clarify, Phillipe expressed concern that there were only 4 people listed as potential participants. The main objection was from MZMcBride (who is not associated with the WMF), who expressed concern that the list would be used for POV-pushing. Subsequently, Sébastien Santoro and two WMF

Re: [Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-02 Thread Tom Morris
On Monday, 2 July 2012 at 06:24, koltzenb...@w4w.net wrote: > Hi Tom, hi @all > > > Wikimedia have decided to allow the list to be created > > since we are addressing not only one gender gap but, seemingly quite a few, > including those that come alonf > the lines of what has come to be called

[Gendergap] recognition of gender gap*s* (in the plural) Re: LGBT mailing list

2012-07-01 Thread koltzenburg
Hi Tom, hi @all > Wikimedia have decided to allow the list to be created since we are addressing not only one gender gap but, seemingly quite a few, including those that come alonf the lines of what has come to be called sexual orientarion, I have a question about the creation process of the