6 day install period...
> > > >
> > > > you should never be able to buy a gun in the time it
> > > > takes for your o/s
> > > > to install...
> > > >
> > > > just bad karmha waiting to happen there
> > > >
> >
to buy a gun in the time it
> > > takes for your o/s
> > > to install...
> > >
> > > just bad karmha waiting to happen there
> > >
> > > --mat
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
&
it doenst work after i load the module :( ... and for some reason, if i
do kldunlaod snd ... freebsd restarts (in a bad way)
but its 4.6.0
maybe buggy
--mat
On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 00:08, Neal Stuntz wrote:
> try typing at a console
> kldload snd
>
> if your sound works after that, try adding
pen there
> >
> > --mat
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
> > > > To: G
heh my onboard sound werks... just find out the model... most of em are
cmi899 blahs or ac 97 blahs... you must find what it is tho...
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Mat Branyon wrote:
> doesnt matter, not using linux anymore... using freebsd, but cant get
> onboard sound to work (never really got onboar
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try typing at a console
kldload snd
if your sound works after that, try adding this to your /boot/loader.conf
snd_pcm_load="YES"
also, if that doesn't get it,
the thing that gets most people with X is that they forget to install a
program called wrapper (under /usr/ports/x11/wrapper .. and in
/stand/sysinstall
--mat
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 19:24, Alvaro Zuniga wrote:
> > --- Neal Stuntz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > yes yes yes. freebsd is easier to f
its a via... i compiled the module for it.. and its loaded
(snd_via82c686.ko) but it doesnt wanna work... thats what dmesg tells me
anyway. maybe if i enable pnpbios in the kernel, and told my bios that
my os isnt plug-n-play??
you think?
--mat
On Sun, 2002-09-29 at 22:17, Neal Stuntz wrote:
> wh
what chipset is your sound card. i use freebsd myself :)
neal
Mat Branyon wrote:
> doesnt matter, not using linux anymore... using freebsd, but cant get
> onboard sound to work (never really got onboard sound working under
> freebsd)... any suggestions on that?
>
> --mat
> maybe im just deaf
doesnt matter, not using linux anymore... using freebsd, but cant get
onboard sound to work (never really got onboard sound working under
freebsd)... any suggestions on that?
--mat
maybe im just deaf?
At 09:04 PM 9/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Mat:
>What sound card are you using? you should b
Mat:
What sound card are you using? you should be able to go into the
multimeidia/audio/sound section, one of those, i'm a BSD user, and just
select your sound card. If you have a SB Live!, Live! 5.1, or Audigy
Live, you need to select the EMU10K1 driver.
Hope that helps some, i'm sure you
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>To:
>Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:42 AM
>Subject: Re: Public Certificate Authority? was Re: Guns = encryption was Re:
>[brlug-general] Re: Installing Gentoo:Buying a Gun was Re: Re:
>[brlug-general] tweaking the desktop
>
>
> > We aren'
yep... i did all that, many many times...
followed allthe instructions
do i have to specifcally and manually make the module for the sound card?
--mat
At 10:26 PM 9/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>did you run 'make menuconfig' i belive it is and configure your kernel to
>include your sound card?
>
>Ma
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To:
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Public Certificate Authority? was Re: Guns = encryption was Re:
[brlug-general] Re: Installing Gentoo:Buying a Gun was Re: Re:
[brlug-general] tweaking the desktop
> We aren't technically a non-profit organ
At 05:56 AM 9/29/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm definitely interested. Would you be willing to
>head up the effort to evaluate that and eventually
>registering us? I'll start reading up on it as well.
Nobody register anything please. For now, let's just gather the information
and then see where we n
We aren't technically a non-profit organization. Well, that is if the
Liberty Alliance means "non-profit organization" as an organization that is
registered with the state as a non-profit or not-for-profit organization? I
wonder. Sounds interesting though. We would need someone to read all of th
I'm definitely interested. Would you be willing to
head up the effort to evaluate that and eventually
registering us? I'll start reading up on it as well.
Thanks,
John Hebert
--- Tim Fournet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just noticed that Liberty Alliance membership is
> free to non-profit
> or
I just noticed that Liberty Alliance membership is free to non-profit
organizations? Would BRLUG count as such an organization to them? and if
so, would the group be interested in filling out the membership kit and
joining?
-Tim
My guess is there is some process involved in getting added to the list
of "well-known" CAs that applications such as mail user agents and web
browsers know to look up against. That being done, it would require a
grass-roots type of web of trust to validate public keys, such as what
Thawte's p
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*neal wakes up from his hang over*
uh um, i was to drunk to reply ;) i voted for George Clinton Gore the
3rd last night.
Doug Riddle wrote:
>No one commented on my
At 11:19 AM 9/28/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I guess I had assumed that there were plenty, but
>immediately after stating that, I realize that is the
>problem.
>
>Wouldn't the Liberty Alliance be the best organization
>to set up a CA? The "success" of a CA is that it is
>well-known, given the technical
At 12:54 PM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 08:26, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > Let's please not get into this conversation. There are many people that
> > believe in gun control in this country, and many that don't. This doesn't
> > mean either are "extreme" anything, they just hav
At 11:41 AM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>What I'd really like to see is a free, community-run Certificate
>Authority. I haven't been able to find any such thing in the few searches
>I've done, but it just seems odd that none would exist yet. A CA is a
>central authority for validating public key
This is a good point. As in many situations, the needs of the government
can conflict with the needs of the people. Oh, and I do like the idea of a
PGP key exchange. I rarely use PGP myself, but I have it setup for when I
do use it. (Again, not often.)
There was a joke article somewhere where "
No one commented on my voting booths in bars suggestions. Is that
hint?
Doug
--- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:54 PM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 08:26, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > > Let's please not get into this conversation. There are many
> people th
well alls i gots to say is... whateva floats ya boat!
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Mat Branyon wrote:
> i get sound working, but after i compile teh kernel, the modules dont wanna
> work. its much easier in freebsd (even though it doesnt do it for you)
>
> --mat
>
> At 03:18 AM 9/27/2002 -0400, you w
On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 10:33, John Hebert wrote:
> Step. It's a work laptop, and I work in a M$ shop that
> I'm attempting to convert to the Alliance.
:-) Don't worry, I have a 2000 partition on my laptop too... Just
because I have to be able to reconcile my purchase card once a month at
Caltech a
On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 08:26, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> At 03:35 AM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> > > > you should never be able to buy a gun in the time it
> > > > takes for your o/s
> > > > to install...
> > > > --mat
> >
> >Please tell me we don't have any extreme liberal anti gun wackos on this
Crap. Now you are putting the fear in me. I've been
planning my escape from WinXP for a few months now,
looks like I'll expedite it. :)
John Hebert
--- Shannon Roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-09-28 at 10:33, John Hebert wrote:
> > Step. It's a work laptop, and I work in a M$ shop
What I'd really like to see is a free, community-run Certificate
Authority. I haven't been able to find any such thing in the few
searches I've done, but it just seems odd that none would exist yet. A
CA is a central authority for validating public keys and verifiying a
big component of Public-
I guess I had assumed that there were plenty, but
immediately after stating that, I realize that is the
problem.
Wouldn't the Liberty Alliance be the best organization
to set up a CA? The "success" of a CA is that it is
well-known, given the technical requirements, from
what I understand a CA to b
I'm a gun advocate myself, but I've been thinking for
a while now that encryption is becoming just as
important for the average citizen as owning a gun. The
fabled "armed takeover" of the country via government
force will never happen IMHO, but we are perfectly
willing to hand over our rights to pr
I think he meant to say: "It shouldn't take more time
to install an OS than it takes to buy a gun." Although
some M$ users should be required to pass a background
check. ;)
John Hebert
--- Shannon Roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > you should never be able to buy a gun in the
> time it
> >
Step. It's a work laptop, and I work in a M$ shop that
I'm attempting to convert to the Alliance.
John Hebert
--- Shannon Roddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > making me interested in trying it out. I'm getting
> > pretty close to blowing away my WinXP partitions,
> as
> > BSOD is happening onc
At 03:35 AM 9/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > you should never be able to buy a gun in the time it
> > > takes for your o/s
> > > to install...
> > > --mat
>
>Please tell me we don't have any extreme liberal anti gun wackos on this
>mailing list? As a matter of fact, I just purchased a Sig Mauser
Point noted and taken... One email too late. Good call Dustin. Some
arguments should never take place outside of bar or voting booth...
Bars and voting booths.. I have an idea... I mean, could Florida be
any worse, or Louisiana elect any more crooks if everyone was three
sheets into the wind w
Not to be a radical, but the populace should always be better armed
than the goverment, it keeps them from being too stupid. My tag line
has been the same for months, check it out (way at the bottom of the
page), and check the archives. I have never gotten a negative
comment on it.
Doug
--- Shan
Out here the gun control advocates say "Buy ammo, not guns."
You can always clean the old gun and use it again.
My wife has the pistol my mother used to keep under her pillow.
Choppy
At 03:35 AM 9/28/02 -0500, Shannon wrote:
> > > you should never be able to buy a gun in the time it
> > > takes
> > you should never be able to buy a gun in the time it
> > takes for your o/s
> > to install...
> > --mat
Please tell me we don't have any extreme liberal anti gun wackos on this
mailing list? As a matter of fact, I just purchased a Sig Mauser .45
caliber pistol today.
http://www.sigarms.com
> making me interested in trying it out. I'm getting
> pretty close to blowing away my WinXP partitions, as
> BSOD is happening once a week, so I'll have lots of
> drive space available then.
>
> John Hebert
I'm disappointed, you actually have an XP partition...? Shame on you!
--
Shannon Roddy
did you run 'make menuconfig' i belive it is and configure your kernel
to include your sound card?
Mat Branyon wrote:
> i get sound working, but after i compile teh kernel, the modules dont
> wanna work. its much easier in freebsd (even though it doesnt do it
> for you)
>
> --mat
>
> At 03:18
i get sound working, but after i compile teh kernel, the modules dont wanna
work. its much easier in freebsd (even though it doesnt do it for you)
--mat
At 03:18 AM 9/27/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>just use fluxbox or windowmaker... mat if ya cant get sound werking in
>linux sadly, your stupid! heh
> --- Neal Stuntz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > yes yes yes. freebsd is easier to figure out, and for some odd
> > reason it
> > works on the first go around.
That would be with compatible hardware ofcourse.
> >Yeah you do have to know how to
> > configure
> > some bootup files, login files, e
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heh, it's called useless, unimportant, non-meaningful bragging, to prove
a useless point, that is only based on my own opinion.
neal :)
Alvaro Zuniga wrote:
>>--- Ne
SLU runs linux in several cases. Webservers, firewalls, mysql databases.
The only problem is it will be very tough to get all the desktops switche=
d=20
over. People in the SLU community don't want to be told what to have on
their desktops. But they're willing to go with the mainstream marketing
so
Well, it takes longer than a minute, more like ten, to recompile a
Linux Kernel with Libranet's Debian, but it isn't complicated. I
like FreeBSD, but as a desktop, for me, it makes a great server. I
plan on setting up a BSD server if Santa Claus is good to me this
year.
Doug
--- Neal Stuntz <[E
>On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>From: Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
>>>>To: General@brlug.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [brlug-general] tweaking the
>
>
> From: Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
> To: General@brlug.net
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] tweaking the desktop
>
> those things will definately help, but as far as tweaking kde, run the
> control center, and go thought t
> > what ive seen, is that a lot of times, linux tends to run teh desktop
> > slow (maybe im doing something wrong) and ive never gotten the modules
> > to compile after i recompile the kernel (following the instructions ste=
p
> > by step, i can never get freakin sound to work).
I think there is
n there
>
> --mat
>
> On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > From: Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
> > > To: General@brlug.net
> > > Subject: Re: [brlug-gene
If you require Gnome or KDE functionality Window Maker is a good
alternative. That is all I have ever used and I do not plan on changing
it because of it offers great performance and elegant features. It is
highly configurable and you have the choice of manual editing and at
least two excellent GUI
gt;
> > Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
> > To: General@brlug.net
> > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] tweaking the desktop
> >
> > those things will definately help, but as far as tweaking kde, run the
> > control center, and go thought those tabs, that can spe
i vote we change brlug to the baton rouge freebsd user group :)
not really
opensource and freesoftware are opensource and freesoftware.. i support
both equally
--mat
i will not start a flame war, i will not start a flame war
On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 12:32, Neal Stuntz wrote:
> yes yes yes. freebsd
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yes yes yes. freebsd is easier to figure out, and for some odd reason it
works on the first go around. Yeah you do have to know how to configure
some bootup files, lo
gt;
> On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 13:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > From: Mat Branyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2002/09/27 Fri AM 11:28:01 EDT
> > > To: General@brlug.net
> > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] tweaking the
> des
those things will definately help, but as far as tweaking kde, run the
control center, and go thought those tabs, that can speed your desktop
up.
what ive seen, is that a lot of times, linux tends to run teh desktop
slow (maybe im doing something wrong) and ive never gotten the modules
to compil
The first thing to do is recompile the kernel. Take out the support
for things you do not need, add the things you do. This will
sometimes make a drastic difference. The try one of the window
managers like Fluxbox, or IceWM. You will improvement there too.
Staya away from bloatware like Mozzila
just use fluxbox or windowmaker... mat if ya cant get sound werking in
linux sadly, your stupid! heh i currently use fluxbox and it runs like a
charm but there is something you guys might like to try out
www.directfb.org it supports transparency in X its rather nice when your
multitasking on a
Awesome, seems like there's several SLU guys on this list. I'm a
student and I work on the MATRICS team doing tech support, fixing
hardware problems, things like that.
What do you guys do?
Be nice if slu had more linux boxes. Right now we have linux on all of
the computers in the computer scien
I was reading some post on slashdot and they spoke of
tweaking the linux desktop to get faster/better
results. In windows XP there is about 20 items to
turn off to get the desktop smoother.
(I know, I know, XP har har, but well, I support about
1500 users of windows OSs and well SLU has just
de
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