== Report of Meeting 2023-10-19 == Present: Art Anger, Ed Gottsman, Raul Miller, and Bob Therriault
Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-10-19 1) Ed gave his response to some discussions on where the J wiki search should occur - server side or client-side. He feels that by having more crawling and indexing done by him, it removes the issues that can occur if the user does the crawling indexing on their computer, which would be hard for him to support. Bob asked if there were any thoughts about making the crawling and indexing supported by a wider group so that it is not so dependent on Ed. Ed felt that as the user base grows that may also enable more support of the platform, but it is not at that point yet. Ed feels that the crawling and indexing will always need someone to supervise it, but that it does not have to be him. Bob feels that designing this for a team approach would be a good idea. Ed felt that the crawling and indexing should run from a server. Bob pointed out that Eric had produced a page about running J on AWS. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/Cloud 2) Ed was considering doing a final demo before a general release but decided to delay it until next week. Bob mentioned the British APL Association meetups https://britishaplassociation.org/webinar-schedule-2023/ and thought that the J wiki search would be a good topic for the open meeting. Ed showed his splash page for his youtube video the application and Raul suggested that it could be used as a splash page while the app initialized. Bob also thought it could be put on the wiki page as a thumbnail as an identifier. 3) Ed feels he will give up on getting WSL2 to run J on Ubuntu. He thinks that there are so many Linux configurations that he could not test them all before releasing the app. He will rely on user feedback to provide user support as needed. Bob mentioned that for J installation by beginners, he mentioned the general forum as a resource for beginner's questions rather than trying to foresee every possibility. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Installing_J_N.4 4) Bob showed the changes that he had made to the J Playground links on the home page. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Home Rather than showing the full reference, he chose to show the Newcomers version https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:J_Playground_N.1 which is more of a user manual than the full reference. There would still be a link to the reference Playground page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:J_Playground_P through the Reference section.https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Reference_R Raul thought it would be good if there was a way to have the J Playground become a live session if it was clicked on. Perhaps a button that would take the contents and run them live in the Playground from the wiki. The button would reduce load as it would only load the Playground when the user wanted, not on the loading of a page. This started a discussion on providing a more immediate J experience. Bob felt that this could work well in NuVoc for code examples. Raul felt that there would be a challenge to creators if the creation process were not made simple and that would be a major consideration for implementation. A longer discussion resulted on how this might experience might be for the user. 5) Bob talked about the process that he had used to make some pages the target of a category page through redirection. Redirection conserves the structure of the category tree and this can be reversed by changing the redirected page if in the future there is more information that could be accommodated on one page. An example of this is the Books link on the Newcomers page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Newcomers_N that goes to a Books page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Books/Beginners via the Books category. Raul suggested that this could be done with the Installation link as well https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Installing_J_N.4 or include the Playground on the installation page as a part of the overview section and not require a beginner's installation page https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation. Flattening the tree gives the user a more direct path to the information. For access to previous meeting reports https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development If you would like to participate in the development of the J wiki please contact us on the general forum and we will get you an invitation to the next J wiki meeting held on Thursdays at 23:00 (UTC) Next meeting is October 26, 2023. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
