== Report of Meeting 2023-11-23 ==

Present:  Ed Gottsman, Raul Miller, and Bob Therriault

Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Reprot_of_Meeting_2023-11-23

1) Bob had read out an email from Brian Schott thanking the group for their 
work on the J wiki project and also several comments from the YouTube site 
which were very positive. https://youtu.be/SLJS84u4eVc  Ed plans to roll out 
future changes gradually introducing fixes and features on a monthly basis. The 
first method of making people aware will be through the J forums. 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/J_Viewer

2) Skip has replied to Ed about the Quora entries that Skip Cave has posted to 
attract people to J. Ed now has a list of links to the documents that give him 
access to Skip's posts, but since there are hundreds of them Ed is looking for 
a more automated approach. Ed has looked into several scrapers, but Quora is 
vigilant in the ways that it prevents scraping. The Journal of J seems to have 
very large articles in a number of formats and may not be a good target for the 
J viewer. Ed has solved the bug that was slowing up the J viewer, but will 
leave the category column as is because it is a better functional solution for 
the user.    

3) At this point we have had no requests for the J viewer and Bob wondered if 
we need a stronger call to action. There could be one put in the video 
description easily and Ed sent Bob and Raul his proposed message to the forums. 
Raul mentioned that Ed had not given himself enough credit for the development 
to which Bob agreed. Bob suggested changing "If you would like to take the J 
viewer for a test drive" to "To take the J Viewer for a test drive" as a more 
direct approach.  

4) Bob mentioned that Eric Iverson had suggested that the J on AWS server 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/Cloud may be incorporated 
with the J Wiki. Ed felt that Eric's solution could work very well and then 
there was an extensive discussion about how this might be done. There were no 
definite solutions, but the discussion was meant to explore the possibilities. 
The transcript below will fill in many of these details. It was agreed that the 
approach taken should be that a terminal window that opens on the wiki page and 
does not require the user to leave the page. A good format might be something 
similar to BQN's approach of documentation. 
https://mlochbaum.github.io/BQN/doc/quick.html  

5) Bob did a quick demo of the Home Page 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Home and the Newcomers page 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Newcomers_N.  Raul suggested that we 
might include the subtrees on the pages below the home page. Ed wondered if we 
could include the Category Tree on every page. Bob is concerned about the 
Category Tree pushing out the content on narrower screens. Raul suggested that 
it may be better to float the Category Tree to the right. And have the content 
of the wiki put into a div that could float away from the Category Tree but 
keep the content intact.  Bob's next project for content is to recategorize the 
Newcomer's essays so that they are grouped in ways that are more accessible to 
Newcomers. Once the Essays for Newcomers is done then Bob will work on the 
Reference and the Community pages to prepare them for launch. Bob felt that the 
Category Tree might be even more useful for navigation when used on the 
Reference page.    

For access to previous meeting reports 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development  
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