HEP proposal

2010-07-12 Thread Eli Collins
o flesh out the proposal, address intial concerns, and figure out whether it has a chance of being accepted. The author's role is to build consensus, and gather dissenting opinions. Following this discussion the author should draft a HEP proposal following the HEP template. The proposal shoul

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-13 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
eing accepted. The author's role is to build consensus, and gather dissenting opinions. Following this discussion the author should draft a HEP proposal following the HEP template. The proposal should accurately reflect and address feedback and dissenting opinions. For example, flesh out

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Eli Collins
dea is HEP-able by sending mail to the general list. If the scope of the idea is limited to a specific project the discussion may happen on the project-specific list or jira. This gives the author a chance to flesh out the proposal, address initial concerns, and figure out whether it has a chance of

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Doug Cutting
On 07/14/2010 10:46 AM, Eli Collins wrote: 5. How the set of editors is selected? "The editors are apointed and removed by the PMC informally, similar to how the Apache Board appoints shepherds to projects." This needs a reference. How does Apache Board appoints shepherds? Good question,

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
e build system to use maven). > >HEP Workflow > > >The author of a HEP should first try to determine if their idea is >HEP-able by sending mail to the general list. If the scope of the >idea is limited to a specific project the discussion may

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Eli Collins
ts backwards compatibility (eg modifies released >>    public APIs in an incompatible way). >> >>    - The feature requires that an existing component be substantially >>    re-designed (eg NameNode modified to use Bookkeeper). >> >>    - The implementation impact

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On 07/14/2010 10:46 AM, Eli Collins wrote: > >> 5. How the set of editors is selected? >>> "The editors are apointed and removed by the PMC informally, similar to >>> how the Apache Board appoints shepherds to projects." >>> This needs a

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Aaron Kimball
Eli, Great work. I like where this is going. Here's something that I think might be problematic: 3. Copyright/public domain -- Each HEP must either be explicitly labelled as placed in the public domain (see this HEP as an example). "must either be placed in the public domain, or..?" I assume t

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Dhruba Borthakur
on a related note, since a HEP-initiator might not be a apache committer, does it mean that it is the responsibility of the editor/champion to check versions of the HEP proposal into svn? thanks, dhruba On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Aaron Kimball wrote: > Eli, > > Great work. I l

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Eli Collins
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Aaron Kimball wrote: > Eli, > > Great work. I like where this is going. > > Here's something that I think might be problematic: > > 3. Copyright/public domain -- Each HEP must either be explicitly > labelled as placed in the public domain (see this HEP as an exampl

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-14 Thread Eli Collins
ight not be a apache committer, > does it mean that it is the responsibility of the editor/champion to check > versions of the HEP proposal into svn? > > thanks, > dhruba > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Aaron Kimball wrote: > >> Eli, >> >> Great work.

Re: HEP proposal

2010-07-15 Thread Doug Cutting
On 07/14/2010 11:41 PM, Eli Collins wrote: I was assuming HEPs would just be placed in the public domain, period. Like design docs posted on jira they're just text posted to a mailing list, not sure checking them into svn needs to require they have an alternate license. Something I'm missing? I