On Saturday 07 May 2005 07:18, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> +1
+0 (positive, but won't be able to contribute, but there seems to be too many
in that area already)
Cheers
Niclas
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Yeah yeah, its a confusing Saturday so far. I was -ve to start with
(pointless with given size of vote so far) thinking there were some
legal problems. I read more before completing the mail (rules for J2SE
implementations from the OSS community) and figured that the angles had
been covered tho
On May 7, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
-1 I'm not sure the
On May 7, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
+1 provided copyright and trademark issues are appropriately
considered.
So right now, you are at 0 :)
For instance, we may have to always mechanically refer the project
and pr
+1 provided copyright and trademark issues are appropriately considered.
For instance, we may have to always mechanically refer the project and
product(s) as "Apache Harmony" rather than just Harmony.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=8rlf0q.2.1
- Paul
On May 6, 2005, at 6:18
On May 7, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
Unless I am mistaken, Apache licensed code will never be able to
'legally' import GPL code.
You are mistaken -- the copyright owner can do whatever they want,
as can users. It is only redistributors that are constrained on
how they can combine and
On May 6, 2005, at 9:20 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The aforementioned issues between GPL and AL aside, I am still trying
to see
how the TCK licensing restrictions are compatible with the GPL.
According
to the FSF licensing page, the Apache License is deemed by the FSF to
be
"incompatible with t
-1 I'm not sure the
On May 6, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
+1
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If we want to integrate any new code produced by the Harmany effort
into
any of the existing projects, many of which are under the GPL or only
accept code compatible with the GPL, and since the Apache Incubator
terms allow modern BSD, MIT/X or MIT/W3C terms I think that is probably
the best we can
Re: licensing etc.
I think the brilliance of Geir's move here is that all of
FSF, Sun, IBM, BEA, etc now have equal motivation to change
their licensing so that they can participate. I hope they all
do.
-Doug
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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
We, the sponsoring members listed below, ask that you accept the
following proposal for a new project at Apache, an effort centered
around architecting and implementing J2SE 5.
+1.
Regards,
Graham
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Mark Wielaard wrote:
I'll make sure I talk to one of the FSF legal people again to make sure
there is progress in these discussions. Some people are setting up a new
teleconference between the ASF and FSF to talk about these issues more
directly.
The lengthy set of teleconferences we have been havi
Hi,
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 00:26 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > But why bother to "work with others"? Why not just join the existing GNU
> > Classpath and Kaffe projects and work within them?
>
> > Geir indicated in a reply to my earlier posting that there were
> > no specific objections to the
Hi,
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 00:20 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Mark Wielaard wrote:
>
> > I had hoped it would have more emphasized the fact that we would do
> > everything in our power to work out the philosophical, legal and
> > practical issues when reusing existing code for Harmony.
>
> Wel
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