[PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Tuscany Proposal 0. Rationale Recent years have seen the introduction of a variety of specifications, frameworks and products (both commercial and open source) that have focused strongly on ease-of-development for enterprise applications by reducing the complexity for a typical application devel

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-8) Incubate Tuscany SOA project

2005-11-30 Thread Kenneth Tam (JIRA)
Incubate Tuscany SOA project Key: INCUBATOR-8 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-8 Project: Incubator Type: Wish Reporter: Kenneth Tam Placeholder for materials related to Tuscany SOA incubator proposal. -- This m

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-8) Incubate Tuscany SOA project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-8?page=all ] Jeremy Boynes updated INCUBATOR-8: -- Attachment: Tuscany-apache-proposal.tar.gz Example of seed code for Java implementation - actual contribution to be uploaded on acceptance of proposal acc

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-8) Incubate Tuscany SOA project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-8?page=all ] Jeremy Boynes updated INCUBATOR-8: -- Attachment: tuscany_cpp.tar.gz Example of seed code for C++ implementation - actual contribution to be uploaded on acceptance of proposal accompanied by f

RE: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jeremy, How does this proposal fit with other ESB/SOA projects currently underway at the ASF? At first glance, there appears to be overlap, so I am wondering if there a plan / opportunity to merge them. --- Noel - To u

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Kenneth Tam
Hi Noel, (I worked with Jeremy on the proposal, and this seems like a good place to chime in) If by "merge", you mean consolidate the projects organizationally, we debated approaching e.g. the WS PMC with this first but decided that it ultimately make more sense to just come to the incubator and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
speaking for myself, we'd be glad to make tuscany part of the WS family. If you wish, we can have a vote on the PMC list. just let us know. thx, dims On 11/30/05, Kenneth Tam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Noel, > > (I worked with Jeremy on the proposal, and this seems like a good > place to chi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > How does this proposal fit with other ESB/SOA projects currently underway at > the ASF? At first glance, there appears to be overlap, so I am wondering if > there a plan / opportunity to merge them. > We are looking forward to close collaboration with other projects at t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Davanum Srinivas wrote: > speaking for myself, we'd be glad to make tuscany part of the WS > family. If you wish, we can have a vote on the PMC list. just let us > know. > > thx, > dims > > On 11/30/05, Kenneth Tam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hi Noel, >> >>(I worked with Jeremy on the proposa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
As much as I would enjoy seeing two umbrella projects duel over an amorphous set of marketing terms invented by IBM, I think the ASF should be developing products, not architectural styles. Although, calling SOA an architectural style would imply that it has some constraints -- does anyone know wh

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Great! i will start a VOTE on ws pmc list. thanks, dims On 11/30/05, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > speaking for myself, we'd be glad to make tuscany part of the WS > > family. If you wish, we can have a vote on the PMC list. just let us > > know. > > > > t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Roy, As i understand it, the concrete proposal is to implement this specification: http://download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/dw/specs/ws-sca/SCA_ClientAndImplementationModelforJava_V09.pdf I think a first cut using Tomcat and Apache Axis (Java) will be the best bet in making a 1.0 releas

Question- [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Changshin Lee
Quick question - Is the project going to be a JBI (JSR 208) implementation? Cheers, Ias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Question- [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Is the project going to be a JBI (JSR 208) implementation? Oddly, IBM is conspicuous by its surprising absence from that JSR's expert group. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: Question- [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
IIRC, IBM was part of that EG, but left it. geir On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Is the project going to be a JBI (JSR 208) implementation? Oddly, IBM is conspicuous by its surprising absence from that JSR's expert group. --- Noel --

Re: Question- [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=JBI+IBM+BEA :) On 11/30/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is the project going to be a JBI (JSR 208) implementation? > > Oddly, IBM is conspicuous by its surprising absence from that JSR's expert > group. > > --- Noel > > >

Re: Question- [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Changshin Lee wrote: > Quick question - Is the project going to be a JBI (JSR 208) > implementation? > The design of the code we are contributing is intended to support multiple container models. At this time there is an implementation of a very simple Java container but some experiments have be

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 30 23:55:24 2005

2005-11-30 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2005-11-24 00:30:24 -0500 (Thu, 24 Nov 2005) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the wiki

Solaris zone for Apache Harmony

2005-11-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I'd like to ask incubator if we in Apache Harmony can have a solaris zone to use for build and test automation. Will the PMC support a podling asking for such a resource? geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --