Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
Actually this raises an interesting discussion about the Incubator PMC. There is kind of a tricky role for Incubator PMC members. Because most of us have no knowledge or affiliation with any given one of the tens of incubator projects, we find it hard to have any say, especially when it comes to

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
If the whole goal is for the 2 external projects to merge and become one ASF project, then there must be a point in time when the external ones no longer exist. If the intent is that these 2 external projects will continue to co-exist while the merged project is also expected to grow and develop

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:45 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Dan, I have to agree that if an existing code base is migrated to Apache, it should not mean that all maintenance ceases on the existing code. There are good reasons for projects dependent on the existing code base to be able to stay

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
To make this easier: Say I have this cool project that I'd like to contribute to the ASF and have it become a TLP. I donate the code, it enters the incubator, a community is built around it and the external project is put out to pasture (ala SpamAssassin). Now consider a case where I donate the

[documentation][DRAFT] Proposal Guide

2006-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
what i came to pull together the material for the proposal template, i found that it didn't really fit into the annotation template format originally conceived. so, here is a first draft of a guide for proposals containing a template. it's rough and ready but the polish can be applied later. the

Re: Don't +1 lightly

2006-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Fremantle wrote: So here is a suggestion. Each incubator project could have nominated two or three PMC members whose job is to pay attention to the project. As opposed to a mentor - who is there to actively help, these PMC members would be there to pay enough attention to have an input on

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: Now consider a case where I donate the code, it enters the incubator, but I do NOT terminate the external project... Then what was the reason *for* the move to the ASF? It wasn't a move at all, but a simple code drop. How does this differ from the httpd project continuing

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/5/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually this raises an interesting discussion about the Incubator PMC. There is kind of a tricky role for Incubator PMC members. Because most of us have no knowledge or affiliation with any given one of the tens of incubator projects, we find

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
A couple of points in relation to the discussion. Firstly I'd like to make it clear I do not condone any blind +1ing. I don't think anyone on this list does. In fact exactly the opposite. The aim of this discussion was to come up with ways to ensure that projects have people willing to do the

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/5/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I take your point about Yet Another Role. On the other hand it takes 3 binding +1s to do a release, and projects typically have only one mentor. It seems to me that a few people like you Robert take on a large part of the burden of doing

[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-22) karma access for existing committer / how to administer it?

2006-07-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-22?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-22: -- Resolution: Fixed Added FAQ to documentation karma access for existing committer / how to administer it?

[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-21) Jira required for incubating project Abdera

2006-07-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-21?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-21: -- Resolution: Fixed This needs to be requested on infra Jira required for incubating project Abdera

[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-16) Set Up Mailing LIsts for ADF Faces Podling

2006-07-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-16?page=all ] Robert Burrell Donkin closed INCUBATOR-16: -- Resolution: Fixed Please request mailing lists on INFRA Set Up Mailing LIsts for ADF Faces Podling

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-05 Thread Adinarayana Sakala
Hi Jim, We are definetely committed to build the project and community at Apache. So, Any and all new development will happen at Apache. That said, as i indicated in my email before there might be a need to do some bug fixes and maybe point releases for Celtix and XFire based on old code base in

[website] of a podling

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey *, according to the Podling Website Requirements (see [1]), we created a website like http://incubator.apache.org/podlingname/ (see [2]). The source lives in our SVN. The result for the page is the mvn site command (maven2). I hope this fits the first requirement Every podling site sources

[website] content of a podling's website

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, I have a question regarding the content of a Podling's website. In case of the Apache Trinidad Podling (ADF Faces donation) this software has been used by some people already. Are we allowed to have list (on the website or the wiki) with some references? In Apache MyFaces we do the same (see

Re: [website] of a podling

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 7/5/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey *, according to the Podling Website Requirements (see [1]), we created a website like http://incubator.apache.org/podlingname/ (see [2]). The source lives in our SVN. The result for the page is the mvn site command (maven2). I hope

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-23) OpenEJB status page

2006-07-05 Thread David Blevins (JIRA)
OpenEJB status page --- Key: INCUBATOR-23 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-23 Project: Incubator Type: Task Components: site Reporter: David Blevins Status page for OpenEJB -- This message is automatically generated by

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-23) OpenEJB status page

2006-07-05 Thread David Blevins (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-23?page=all ] David Blevins updated INCUBATOR-23: --- Attachment: openejb.patch OpenEJB status page --- Key: INCUBATOR-23 URL:

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-24) Setup OpenEJB mailing lists

2006-07-05 Thread David Blevins (JIRA)
Setup OpenEJB mailing lists --- Key: INCUBATOR-24 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-24 Project: Incubator Type: Task Reporter: David Blevins * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

trademark issue

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey, Since the name ADF Faces is only a temporary one, we ask our community to vote on a name (We filtered the suggested names, because some are already used for software products; filtering means: using google by combining name + software). The result was Trinidad. So the name for the Podling

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-24) Setup OpenEJB mailing lists

2006-07-05 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-24?page=comments#action_12419365 ] Matthias Weßendorf commented on INCUBATOR-24: - I recommend for some reasons a PPMC list too. (or private) -Matthias Setup OpenEJB mailing lists

Re: [website] of a podling

2006-07-05 Thread David Crossley
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hey *, according to the Podling Website Requirements (see [1]), we created a website like http://incubator.apache.org/podlingname/ (see [2]). The source lives in our SVN. The result for the page is the mvn site command (maven2). I hope

Re: [website] of a podling

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Ok, thanks! -Matthias On 7/5/06, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hey *, according to the Podling Website Requirements (see [1]), we created a website like http://incubator.apache.org/podlingname/ (see [2]). The source lives

Re: [website] of a podling

2006-07-05 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Just created http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/adffaces/site/ for going the same route. Thx, Matthias On 7/5/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks! -Matthias On 7/5/06, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Matthias Wessendorf

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Jul 5 23:52:23 2006

2006-07-05 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2006-02-05 04:40:19 -0500 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006) $] Web site: http://Incubator.Apache.Org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ [note: the Web site is the 'official' documentation; the