Re: [RESULT] -- [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2

2006-10-06 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
As is mine, I believe. Otis - Original Message From: Erik Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2006 8:18:36 AM Subject: Re: [RESULT] -- [Vote] accept UIMA as a podling - #2 I didn't specify as such with my vote, but I believe my +1 was

Re: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-06 Thread Steve Vinoski
Sorry, Leo, but I don't see the point of your message below making statements about CXF that are wholly untrue. First, CXF is corporate? That's incorrect, given that it's purely the combination of two separate open source projects, Celtix and XFire. Celtix was developed completely under the

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Little
In which case I apologies if I got the context wrong. Let's please just collectively shake hands (hard to do via email I know) and agree to buy each other some drinks if we ever catch up face-to-face. All the best, Mark. On 6 Oct 2006, at 22:29, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN P

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, I believe you took my entire message out of its intended context, which was the recent me/you/Leo/you minithread. Most definitely not the entire looong discussion thread, nor the overall topic with all the threads hanging from it. Sorry if I wa

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Little
On 6 Oct 2006, at 21:34, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Little wrote: 1) ASF is a meritocracy. And people learn by questioning, not by being passive observers! Actually, I think that's patently false. You never learned anything from a b

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Little
On 6 Oct 2006, at 21:08, Henri Yandell wrote: Replying from the peanut gallery because the friction is getting too high. On 10/6/06, Mark Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6 Oct 2006, at 18:10, Leo Simons wrote: > > Erm. > > 1) ASF is a meritocracy. And people learn by questioning, not

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Little wrote: > >> 1) ASF is a meritocracy. > > And people learn by questioning, not by being passive observers! Actually, I think that's patently false. You never learned anything from a book? Or a lecture? Or a discussion? And people gain

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Henri Yandell
Replying from the peanut gallery because the friction is getting too high. On 10/6/06, Mark Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6 Oct 2006, at 18:10, Leo Simons wrote: > > Erm. > > 1) ASF is a meritocracy. And people learn by questioning, not by being passive observers! Questioning is good.

Re: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 6 Oct 06, at 9:38 AM 6 Oct 06, Cliff Schmidt wrote: On 10/6/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the Proposer controls the Proposal (and not stick it on a freely editable Wiki), then isn't it very straight forward? +1, although I think a Wiki still *should* work if the estab

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Leo Simons wrote: 2) The mentors for CXF (well, until recently) have accumulated loads of merit. Enough to be allowed to be mentors, and then some. The guy you're disagreeing with has accumulated so much merit he has difficulty passing through airport security (*

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Mark Little
On 6 Oct 2006, at 18:10, Leo Simons wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Mark Little wrote: On 5 Oct 2006, at 14:54, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Mark Little wrote: On 4 Oct 2006, at 23:20, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: You will, of course, infer and interpret events as you choose. It's pre

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Jagielski wrote: > > I did not like the idea of rebooting CXF because I think > the CXF community would have lost an important > "lessons-learned" opportunity... IMHO, there's been a 'lessons-learned' opportunity for the incubator, too. - -- #ken

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
Just an update: o Jason has stepped down as Mentor for CXF. o The PPMC has been setup. o Anyone who was supposed to get commit privs and did not is being contacted to see if they still want it, and if they say Yes, will receive it. o If they also request to join the PPMC, they wil

Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 5, 2006, at 4:19 PM, Mark Little wrote: On 5 Oct 2006, at 14:54, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Mark Little wrote: On 4 Oct 2006, at 23:20, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: You will, of course, infer and interpret events as you choose. It's pretty obvious to me, a complete outsider, that t

Re: Inappropriate Branding

2006-10-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On 10/7/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.logicblaze.com/ as it refers to "Apache ActiveMQ" with mentioning it is under-going incubation. Sorry for the typo... s/with/without/ Niclas

Inappropriate Branding

2006-10-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Hi, whoever is associated with LogicBlaze need to amend the posting on the website http://www.logicblaze.com/ as it refers to "Apache ActiveMQ" with mentioning it is under-going incubation. I am sure there are other references, such as http://www.logicblaze.com/services.jsp in the same manner. T

Re: Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-06 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Martijn, do keep sending these e-mails. Less replies doesn't mean that its less valuable. On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:38 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Just to pose an outsider view, being new to the ASF and not to hijack the discussion on the CFX/CeltiXFire, I would like to share my views on the

Re: Re: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-06 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 10/6/06, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the Proposer controls the Proposal (and not stick it on a freely editable Wiki), then isn't it very straight forward? +1, although I think a Wiki still *should* work if the established etiquette was not to make edits to someone else's pro

RE: [VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release

2006-10-06 Thread Nolan, Edell
Comments in-line. I will log these issues in jira and we will get them fixed. Thanks, Edell. -Original Message- From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2006 22:02 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release On 9/29/06, Mo

Re: Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-06 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 02:46, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > And then we've got Roy's comment that the Incubator PMC > isn't equipped to make those decisions, so that leaves us with what? This has been a long thread to go thru for someone absent for a while... It has been very interesting. I unde