Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Querna
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:33, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Will you be satisfied with a vote on posting a snapshot? I think some Incubator PMC member wants to see a 'full release' artifact for review. I don't. The podling should select a release manager producing

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 14:07, Paul Querna wrote: I believe in general, a release is a 'nice to have' for an incubator project, and nothing more. It can help some groups who are not familiar with what is required of a release, but by no means should it be a requirement to graduate from

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Greg Stein
You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play with your project. Is there a specific problem with producing a developer release? Cheers,

Re: New Name for UIMA Podling?

2006-10-18 Thread Thilo Goetz
If there's no reason for us to change the project name, then I for one would just like to keep the one we have. We have built some name recognition around UIMA already, and I hope the Ukrainian Institute of Modern Art will forgive us for usurping the #1 spot on Google ;-) --Thilo Mads

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Tuesday October 17 2006 10:33 pm, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: The early rule did not work, specifically for projects that intended to graduate as a TLP. There was insufficient experience left in one group post-graduation to properly create an Apache release, so we

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
Roy T. Fielding wrote: Legal ducks? this project has a flock :) And there is no requirement for a release for graduation, is there? (Ironic, since the early rule in the incubator was that no releases were allowed ;) The early rule did not work, specifically for projects that intended to

Re: [VOTE] Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release project pom and buildtools artifacts

2006-10-18 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 (non-binding) On 10/18/06, Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 On 10/17/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Jeremy Boynes wrote: The Tuscany PPMC has voted to release a parent pom and buildtools jar that are dependencies for a forthcoming M2 release. These

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Mads Toftum
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:44:22PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for graduation from the Apache Incubator. We have enjoyed our time here with you, but feel that we don't want to overstay our welcome. We want to do our part

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 10/18/06, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At ApacheCon, it was noticed that at the present time the number of podlings exceeds the number of Apache projects (I believe the figures quoted were 37 to 35). I am of the opinion that the pendulum has swung too far - we seem to have a number of

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
Mads Toftum wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:44:22PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for graduation from the Apache Incubator. We have enjoyed our time here with you, but feel that we don't want to overstay our welcome. We

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Mads Toftum
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:10:37PM +0200, Mads Toftum wrote: On the surface everything appears fine to the point of graduating minus the proving that you can do a release. But given past experiences with graduating large projects too fast, I'd be much in favor of keeping Harmony in incubation

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Don Brown
Agreed. I don't think it is fair to be making up graduation requirements right when a project is about to graduate. If we are to require a project to go through an Incubation process, that process should be well-defined and not constantly changing based on the whims of Incubation members. That

[RESULT] Mark lucene4c as dormant (was Re: [VOTE] Mark lucene4c as dormant)

2006-10-18 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 10/9/06, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there hasn't been any significant work on Lucene4c in quite some time, I'd like to officially mark it as dormant so I don't have to keep writing board reports that just say there has been no progress in the last 3 months. So, cast your

Harmony as TLP

2006-10-18 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
NOTE: I'm not subscribed to this list, so please copy me if you reply. - o - I've participated in more community building exercises that you can count with your hands and I have *never* seen a community behave like Harmony. The effort of writing a JVM is no small

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 10/18/06, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At ApacheCon, it was noticed that at the present time the number of podlings exceeds the number of Apache projects (I believe the figures quoted were 37 to 35). I am of the opinion that the pendulum has swung too far - we

[IP CLEARANCE] Mitosis Contribution for ApaceDS (Directory)

2006-10-18 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi all, I've just committed the clearance form for Mitosis here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/directory-mitosis.xml The tar ball of the contribution which has a SHA1 checksum in the document above has been made available here:

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Don Brown wrote: Agreed. I don't think it is fair to be making up graduation requirements right when a project is about to graduate. The graduation requirement is that a majority of the PMC members agree that a podling should be graduated. Geir asked for a

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Note that the best practice of LICENSE and NOTICE in META-INF has been noted and addressed. in theory, this is a best practice but in practice, this is almost always a requirement :-) every artifact distributed must have a LICENSE

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Oct 18, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Don Brown wrote: Agreed. I don't think it is fair to be making up graduation requirements right when a project is about to graduate. The graduation requirement is that a majority of the PMC members agree that a podling should be

RE: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Grote, Judy
He just never seems to give up--like a small child not knowing when to stop. -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:24 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play with your project. i'd like to give

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a developer release, but it let's non-Harmony folks play with your

Re: [VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release

2006-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/17/06, Mosur Ravi, Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Yoko community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Yoko Milestone 1. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy we would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the milestone on

[IP CLEARANCE] Triplesec Contribution (Directory)

2006-10-18 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi all, I've just committed the clearance form for Triplesec here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/directory-triplesec.xml The tar ball of the contribution which has a SHA1 checksum in the document above has been made available here:

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at it, too? Sure, it is a

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Oct 18, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Grote, Judy wrote: He just never seems to give up--like a small child not knowing when to stop. No, more like an old grandpa who sees his grandkids grab a pair of scissors and then asks the parents whether they've taught them not to start running around the room

Re: [VOTE] approve the 4.0.2 (RC4) release of ActiveMQ

2006-10-18 Thread Hiram Chirino
nice thanks! On 10/18/06, Guillaume Nodet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiram Chirino wrote: Plus there are some that I'm not sure if there is a syntax for comments. Anybody know if you can add comments to a JAAS config file? See

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/18/06, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You said that you have run Tomcat on top of Harmony. Why can't you produce a release such that I can throw the Tomcat jar at

Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Folks, I completely agree with Geir on that the community is healthy and very active.. All the new folks on the ppmc have demonstrated to my satisfaction that they will do well as the pmc of a TLP. I definitely don't think we need a release out to gauge it. thanks, dims On 10/18/06, Geir

RE: *** REMINDER: Incubator Board Reports

2006-10-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Please note. Today is October 1. Time to start getting the Board reports posted. We will no longer hold the report pending late arrivals, at the Board's insistence. TODAY IS OCTOBER 18. If it were not for ApacheCon, Agila, AltRMI, CeltiXfire, JuICE, Harmony, and Roller would ALL BE MISSING

Re: *** REMINDER: Incubator Board Reports

2006-10-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
In case this was buried, it's important for -all- projects to pay attention to Noel's comment below, going forwards... Noel J. Bergman wrote: Finally, would all projects please make sure to add: * Project name and one-line summary * Date of entry to the Incubator * Top three items to