Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 11/11/06, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CXF and Tuscany are currently using incubator. Yoko is using incubating. Does it matter? Nah. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-12 Thread Stephen Duncan
Abdera uses incubating. -Stephen On 11/11/06, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday November 11 2006 3:51 pm, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 11/11/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or is it ok to do: groupIdorg.apache.wicket/groupid artifactIdwicket-parent/artifactId

[IP Clearnance] Jakarta Commons - Mantissa donation

2006-11-12 Thread Phil Steitz
The Jakarta Commons community has voted to accept a donation from Luc Maisonoble of the Mantissa math library, for inclusion in Jakarta Commons Math. The IP clearance form is checked into /ip-clearance as jakarta-commons-mantissa.xml. The source is here:

Re: [IP Clearnance] Jakarta Commons - Mantissa donation

2006-11-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
sounds good! On 11/12/06, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jakarta Commons community has voted to accept a donation from Luc Maisonoble of the Mantissa math library, for inclusion in Jakarta Commons Math. The IP clearance form is checked into /ip-clearance as

Re: [IP Clearnance] Jakarta Commons - Mantissa donation

2006-11-12 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 11/12/06, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Jakarta Commons community has voted to accept a donation from Luc Maisonoble of the Mantissa math library, for inclusion in Jakarta Commons Math. The IP clearance form is checked into /ip-clearance as jakarta-commons-mantissa.xml. The

Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-12 Thread Henri Yandell
incubating appears to be the more common - let's make incubating our standard. Hen On 11/12/06, Stephen Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abdera uses incubating. -Stephen On 11/11/06, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday November 11 2006 3:51 pm, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 11/11/06,

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Garrett Rooney wrote: I think it's unrealistic to expect that the majority of the members of the incubator PMC will be involved in most votes. The Incubator PMC is the second largest in the ASF, and likely to become the largest in short order. As long as we have sufficient oversight, I agree

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: People like Robert have been complete stud muffins in this regards. Big kudos to him and RAT. It's been a major step forward and I'm very thankful for his recent efforts. Robert has been a huge help, and I'd like to encourage the use of RAT ASF-wide, and at least as

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Sam Ruby wrote: I call on those who wish to set the expectation that certain votes are to occur on this list to actively foster the notion that people who are members of this PMC are expected to actively participate. Better? Yes. :-) --- Noel

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ken asked: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: There seems to be a persistent delusion that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens. That is perjorative. Want to start again? What the flying moose ears is wrong with people today? Everyone seems to be hyper-sensitive and twitchy.

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ken wrote: Garrett raises a point about which I want to ask. What criteria should a mentor use when it comes to voting on a release? I for one can't make any judgement of its technical worth. IMO: IP issues and decision making process. And RAT. And, of course, the Mentor is able to also

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Daniel Kulp wrote: In the last couple months, I've seen MULTIPLE instances where the mentors for various projects (according to their proposal and STATUS pages) didn't even know they were mentors for the project. I've seen responses like I didn't look at it or vote because I didn't know I

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/12/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That may be true, but as ASF Members (which most are), I would expect (and have observed) that they have an overall concern regarding events that effect the ASF. Sure, but having an overall concern about events that effect the ASF is

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ken wrot: I just spent a considerable amount of time going through all the podling status pages, and there's a certain.. lack of uniformity about them. I've attached the results. Thank you for doing that, Ken. :-) I've noted the same when doing spot checks in the past, as have (for

RE: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Garrett Rooney wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: That may be true, but as ASF Members (which most are), I would expect (and have observed) that they have an overall concern regarding events that effect the ASF. Sure, but having an overall concern about events that effect the ASF is

RE: svn commit: r473365 [1/22] - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/projects/ site-publish/guides/ site-publish/ip-clearance/ site-publish/official/ site-publish/projects/

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I did notice that other pages had changed, but I figured that it had happened as part of the site generation process. When that many pages change, it is usually due to EOL issues. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I challenge all the other Incubator PMC members who have yet to vote to follow through on their responsibilities as a member of this PMC. It seems to me that anyone paying attention would have seen that there were issues with the proposed release, and they were being addressed. Therefore, I

November 2006 Incubator Report

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The Incubator continues to be very active. The recent graduation of Harmony has led to a healthy discussion of what types of votes should be held on which mailing lists. Ken Coar also conducted a general review of the STATUS files for current Incubator projects, which has led to a number of

Re: [VOTE] Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release DAS for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-12 Thread Luciano Resende
Reminder: Please take a look at the proposed release and vote on it. So far, we have a +1 from Robert. Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany On 11/7/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/06, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: key ID 96324791 used to sign releases is

RE: [VOTE] - Restarting the vote to --- Ratify Tuscany PPMC vote to release SDO for Java M2 artifacts

2006-11-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Noel J. Bergman wrote: It seems to me that anyone paying attention would have seen that there were issues with the proposed release, and they were being addressed. And some people may also have missed, or been confused by, the fact that Tuscany has several votes running concurrently.

Re: svn commit: r473365 [1/22] - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/projects/ site-publish/guides/ site-publish/ip-clearance/ site-publish/official/ site-publish/projects/

2006-11-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I did notice that other pages had changed, but I figured that it had happened as part of the site generation process. When that many pages change, it is usually due to EOL issues. ...or due to one of the anchor sources changing which are reflected on many pages. In

Re: Top Reason to join the ASF (or not)

2006-11-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Eelco Hillenius wrote: Top three reasons why a project should join the ASF 2. A development communtity wants to help manage and oversee the Foundation. As in: a career move or plain idealism? ;) I mean, caring about ASF (and having been using it's projects